I need a teacher

kikedeolivos · Post by **kikedeolivos** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:06 pm

EDITED (Deleted)

You were right guys; my time spent was pointless seeing the nature of his last comment. (After Kantho's post)

Billy · Post by **Billy** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 3:41 pm

Synthoid wrote:We're not going to "spoon feed" you.

Read the manual and experiment.

I got a nice brand new 61 key KORG M-50 - $900 or
best offer.

$900 or best offer - brand new machine.

Billy

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:04 pm

kikedeolivos wrote:
Billy wrote:OK. For instance, how do I create
two zones with sounds??? Like fat
basses on my left and funky organs
on my right.

I need a button by button account.

Is that a good question? I hope so!

Billy

1) Turn on the M50.

2) Press Combi button and chose an empty one.(Init whatever)

3) There you'll see 8 Timbres. There's 8 more timbres available but, with what you want to accomplish, 8 are enough.

4) You said Fat basses on the left, Organs on the right: here, you need to decide which effects are more important to you. Let's say. Organ effects. (You could modify this later)

5) Press the arrow in the drop down menu. Press Copy from Program and choose WHICH organ patch / effects should be the predominant in your Combi. Check IFX, MFX and TFX. Press OK. What just happened is that you've copied to Timbre 01 in your Combi, the Organ and it's effects.

6) Now you have an Organ in the entire keyboard range, and on MIDI channel 1.

7) Now to Timbre 2 to place the bass. Press Page Select, choose Timbre param and change Timbre 2 MIDI channel to the SAME one as Timbre 1. (01G)

Press EXIT. Now, if you play the keys, you'll notice that the Organ is sounding along with a Piano. On Timbre 2, choose your preferred Bass sound. Now, you'll hear the Organ along with the Bass in the entire range.

9) Go to Page Select again, and Press P4 (Zone Delay). You'll see the 8 first timbres of the Combi. (For this example, it's only 1 and 2). Play with the Top and Bottom Key Values, at the points you want the Organ and Bass to sound.

10) Exit

11) Name your Combi and Save it.

I think this is a good starting point.

Good luck.

Two things i'd like to add:

- it is best practise to select G instead of 01G or whatever suffixed by G because that is specifying the channel specifically. selecting G means the combi will still work if you choose to change the global channel. I believe G appears after you pass 16, or maybe it is at the start before 1?

- when you have a keyzone field selected (or any other key field for example keytrack limits, etc), you can hold down the enter key and press the key that you want to set that field at.
similarly if you have a velocity field highlighted you can hold down enter and press any key to enter the velocity value.

CfNorENa · Post by **CfNorENa** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:50 pm

Billy wrote:
Synthoid wrote:We're not going to "spoon feed" you.

Read the manual and experiment.
I got a nice brand new 61 key KORG M-50 - $900 or
best offer.

$900 or best offer - brand new machine.

Billy

Brilliant. Excellent decision.

jerryv · Post by **jerryv** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:09 pm

Billy wrote:
Synthoid wrote:We're not going to "spoon feed" you.

Read the manual and experiment.
I got a nice brand new 61 key KORG M-50 - $900 or
best offer.

$900 or best offer - brand new machine.

Billy

Good choice. And with the money, buy a CD player. That would be more suited to your willingness to learn.

kanthos · Post by **kanthos** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:22 pm

jerryv wrote:Good choice. And with the money, buy a CD player. That would be more suited to your willingness to learn.

Why bother with that? A couple people in this thread have already shown that they're willing to spoonfeed someone who's got to be the laziest poster I've seen (not looking up videos on youtube when you're given the name of the series to look for? Come on!). What motivation is there for anyone to actually learn on their own, actually put effort into their hobby?

Billy · Post by **Billy** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:01 pm

Good choice. And with the money, buy a CD player. That would be more suited to your willingness to learn.

actually, it's my willingness to not get annoyed and suffer.
what's wrong with getting the teks like this, way better
than that crappy alien manual.

Now this is getting better, your comments and numbered
instruction.

I went to the video site and there was no M-50
except M 50 drum stuff.

Doing a google search is a pain in the ass.

I want exactness and what is going here now is a
tutorial, with no video I've got to slosh around with.
I will get nothing from a video. I need hardcore
step by step and button by button. what is the use
of searching around with web search engines
when the answers are here - way
better than that rag manual.

but, I have a feeling I am going to go another way -
with a guitar gadget. You can make a little synthesizor
sound like Nostradamus' "end of days" I could tell
you a very interesting story of a cheap KORG 700
maybe about 20 years ago, with a very funky full
tilt black group with fenders and marshalls and the
dude with the lame little synthesizor with some
guitar gadgets was keeping up with his black metal
comrades sounding like pure filth. That's what I
like to do - filth rather than cleaness.

but, I have learned to hate this M 50 and I might go for something really
small and cheap.

Brand new 61 key KORG M 50 -- $900 or best offer
or of course I just be anal and send the machine back.

Billi

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:54 pm

There is a reason that the acronym RTFM is used. You just have to do it. If you don't like it, then you shouldn't play synths at all. Play a piano, a rhodes, Hammond, Solina... eh, no wait, Hammond and Solina have faders, you need a manual for that!

No, really. Get a Casio or something. Toys'r'us is welcoming you.

kikedeolivos · Post by **kikedeolivos** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:58 pm

evildragon wrote:...No, really. Get a Casio or something...

Even Casio's have faders nowadays. Maybe an old Harmonium?. A Piano. for God's sake? (3 pedals are too much to handle?) A cowbell? Maracas? Wait, those are 2 and require some coordination...

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:09 pm

The right video we were talking about is right here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAvyjhlfGKw

it took a whole of 30 seconds to find (there was a link to it in the 2nd result from google for "KORG M50 combi tutorial".

If you watch it, it gives you a step by step instruction on how to do it. so why should we type it out here when the instructions already exist somewhere else for you to use? its a waste of our time.

We're not employed by KORG, we're just other users like you, except many of us have actually bothered to put the effort in and we like to spend some time helping others to do the same. .

I'm not going to say any more because frankly your attitude is appalling.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:21 am

kikedeolivos wrote:A cowbell?

Yeah. NEED MORE COWBELL!

Post by **mikemolloyuk** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:26 am

I got a fever ........

Billy · Post by **Billy** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:03 pm

X-Trade wrote:The right video we were talking about is right here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAvyjhlfGKw

Oh yeah. That was great. Now your teaching. It was
harder pulling teeth (had several of those done recently)than
getting you dudes to do this.

anyway

Brand new 61 key KORG M 50 - $900 or best
offer

kikedeolivos · Post by **kikedeolivos** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:11 pm

Billy wrote:
X-Trade wrote:The right video we were talking about is right here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAvyjhlfGKw

Oh yeah. That was great. Now your teaching. It was
harder pulling teeth (had several of those done recently)than
getting you dudes to do this.

anyway

Brand new 61 key KORG M 50 - $900 or best
offer
For such a crappy keyboard, I offer $150. You pay for customs and shipping to Buenos Aires, Argentina. When I get it, I will make a wire transfer to your bank or PayPal: is that a fair offer?

jacke · Post by **jacke** » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:30 pm

Isn't it sort of useless putting up a big FOR SALE thing in a forum that is frequented mostly by people who already own it? (Unless it's just for drama, that is.)