I need a teacher

Billy · Post by **Billy** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:06 pm

after spending over $1000,
this marvolous piece of
equipment, the M50,
has worse than crappy
manual.

I need a teacher, I' ve
got a real headache after
2 hours of study. The diagrams
are a lot of them - illegible.

How can I get a tutorial??????
I know what I want and this synth can do
it.

I need a teacher.

Billy

Synthoid · Post by **Synthoid** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:11 pm

Is this your first synth/workstation?

I felt the same way after I bought my Korg Triton 9 years ago... but eventually everything started making sense after experimenting on my own.

mocando · Post by **mocando** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:25 pm

Synthoid wrote:Is this your first synth/workstation?

I felt the same way after I bought my Korg Triton 9 years ago... but eventually everything started making sense after experimenting on my own.

I second that. At first I was totally lost. And I got a PA50 (forget about touchscreen). I got sore fingers of turning the thumb wheel just to tweak an filter setting.

Eventually everything came to sense and now I fly on my M50

Ajbbklyn · Post by **Ajbbklyn** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:37 pm

Go on YouTube and search for the KorgUSA videos...specifically the "In The Studio" series presented by Korg Marketing Specialist Rich Formidoni. The tutorials are clear, concise and will get you up and running in no time.

Billy · Post by **Billy** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:42 pm

OK. For instance, how do I create
two zones with sounds??? Like fat
basses on my left and funky organs
on my right.

I need a button by button account.

Is that a good question? I hope so!

Billy

Ajbbklyn · Post by **Ajbbklyn** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:55 pm

Check out the video, "How To Create Combis" - it's part of the series I'm referring to. It will show you how to easily create customized splits and layers.

kanthos · Post by **kanthos** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 4:29 pm

Also keep in mind that depending on what you want to do, there may be some learning involved that the M50 manual doesn't and shouldn't cover.

Specifically, if you plan on making your own programs using the ROM samples, the M50's manual assumes a working knowledge of basic synthesis, so if you don't know what an envelope generator is, for example, the M50's manual isn't going to tell you what that is and how it works in general; you'll just be told how to use one on the M50.

There are all kinds of great tutorials on synthesis on the web, including some by Gordon someone-or-other from Sounds On Sounds magazine. If you want to get this deep into your keyboard, tutorials like these will help you a lot.

Of course, understanding the basics of your keyboard, like how to use the factory sounds and make your own combis, is a first step, so start with the Youtube videos that have been recommended.

Synthoid · Post by **Synthoid** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 5:05 pm

Billy wrote:OK. For instance, how do I create
two zones with sounds??? Like fat
basses on my left and funky organs
on my right.

In this case, do what I did in the early days--find an existing layer or split combination that's close to what you need--take it apart and see how it's set up.

Then substitute the program(s) you want to use.. voila!

Plus--as kanthos said: there may be some learning involved that the M50 manual doesn't and shouldn't cover.

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 6:08 pm

See KorgUSA Videos here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/KorgUSAVideos#g/u

Some of the M3 videos will also apply but there are plenty of videos on the M50 already.

The manual for the M50 requires a bit of initiative. It won't hold your hand and give you a step by step guide on how to do things, because you can virtually do anything with it! Instead the manual tells you how to use the tools to get the job done - what the job is, is entirely up to you. Once you understand how everything is related and how the different functions and parts work, you should see what you need to do to achieve the result you want.

for example, you get a computer programming language, you don't get a manual telling you how to create every different kind of program. you get a manual telling you what all the commands are - it is up to you to write the programs you want.

Anyway, there are such things as tutorials that other people write, like the videos linked above.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Dec 09, 2009 9:09 pm

Korg's manuals in general can be quite technical (but not as far as Kurzweil's, for example), but they are rather well written, everything is described in there. You just need to read it all and then think about it for a while and how you can use those features.

Billy · Post by **Billy** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:00 am

OK, lay on me the LINK to a
combi M 50 video on you tube.

I know enough to grap cool music and
videos so I should have the brains
to get the KORG M 50 instruction.

But why won't anybody try for
what I am asking - a button by
button account.

There is a big difference between a
manual and a tutorial. The manual tells
you about it. A tutorial tells you how to do
it.

Like I asked, I just want in text, a basic tutorial,
button by button, starting from 000 piano on
how to create zones and how to insert whatever
sounds onto those zones so I can get fat
bases to my left and screamy organs to my right.

Thanx people, but you guys don't seem to get it
at all, and I know you know how to do it - so come on,
please tell me the button by button way to go.

Billy

http://www.seanet.com/~rwmcpherson/music

I have been a professional musician since I was
a teenager, 100% of the time

Synthoid · Post by **Synthoid** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:25 pm

We're not going to "spoon feed" you.

Read the manual and experiment.

pictobug · Post by **pictobug** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:35 pm

Billy wrote:
But why won't anybody try for
what I am asking - a button by
button account.

you guys don't seem to get it
at all, and I know you know how to do it - so come on,
please tell me the button by button way to go.

I don't think you're going to get far asking like that, frankly.

I agree the manual is terrible and I've been quite vocal in asking for a complete video tutorial....but there are ways of asking for things.

At least TRY watching the video on the link provided (and by "watching", I mean pointing your eyes at your monitor at the SAME time as the video is playing. Hope that helps).

Post by **mikemolloyuk** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:27 pm

Billy

Have you read the operation guide?

http://www.korguksupport.co.uk/page.cfm?pageid=599

This is the document we produce to get the basics of the machine....

All users have to start somewhere with a product and this is as good a place as any. Have you tried walking into your local retailer who has an X50 and ask someone there for the price of a coffee or something to show you some basics.....?

It takes time to type 'how to's ' here and were all busy making music most of the time..!

Please don't be too aggressive when you don't get what you want on this site.... people here are helping users and we all contribute for free.... believe me there have been plenty of people here who have gone down the road you are starting to go down with a bit of an attitude and they quickly get pushed to one side and sometimes removed for aggressive posts.

Mike

Kyobanim · Post by **Kyobanim** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:30 pm

The section you're interested in is page 47 of the manual. this is the section covering Combinations. I would suggest reading this chapter of the book. In particular, on page 48 is a section called Creating Key Splits and Layers. This is what you are looking for.

The manual isn't great but after a month of trying to figure this stuff out on my own, I've learned that the manual is smarter than me. As suggested in a previous post, open up a combination and have a look at all the functions that are going on. It's a great way to get oriented to the process.