Upgrade E2 to ES2 and vice versa!

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HappyTed
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Upgrade E2 to ES2 and vice versa!

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I heard that now the Electribe Sampler has been released there will be the ability to add the sampling functionality to the Electribe 2 :)

In this case I think there will be two content upgrades.

1) E2 sampler upgrade - add all sampling functionality from the ES2 to the E2.
2) ES2 synth upgrade - add all additional OSC and Filter types from the E2 to the ES2.

I think Korg will price each upgrade option at about $129, with users that have previously registered both Electribes getting the upgrades for free.

I'll definitely upgrade my E2 :)
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Re: Upgrade E2 to ES2 and vice versa!

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HappyTed wrote:I heard that now the Electribe Sampler has been released there will be the ability to add the sampling functionality to the Electribe 2 :)

In this case I think there will be two content upgrades.

1) E2 sampler upgrade - add all sampling functionality from the ES2 to the E2.
2) ES2 synth upgrade - add all additional OSC and Filter types from the E2 to the ES2.

I think Korg will price each upgrade option at about $129, with users that have previously registered both Electribes getting the upgrades for free.

I'll definitely upgrade my E2 :)
Wow! Do you have a source for this info. I don't want to get my hopes up if your just kidding.
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Post by SMK »

Ahhhhhh, don't anybody hold your breath.

I'm going to post this on the FB page and see if anyone else has heard about this.

HappyTed, mind backing up your claims, here? Where did your hear or read about this? Or are you just trolling the group?

Truth or Troll!!!!!!
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stlkr wrote:
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Oh thanks stlkr...that says it all. I'm all about getting to the root of it all.

Anyhow, a Korg artist (as in a musician who works for Korg) confirmed it! There is absolutely nothing to HappyTed's story.

Debunked!!!!
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Post by Ted3000 »

I wouldn't pay for an upgrade. But that's fine, because I don't think it will happen.

There's something really crass about app-style double dipping when it comes to standalone hardware. Suddenly, your gear is outdated, held hostage unless you cough up cash.

If this evidence-free speculation somehow pans out, the community will do everything in it's power to crack the upgrade.

Here's to a free swappable OS - or at least a bug-free stable update with a shift-function for insert effects, a real arpeggiator, and more notes per pattern.
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SMK wrote:
stlkr wrote:
HappyTed



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Oh thanks stlkr...that says it all. I'm all about getting to the root of it all.

Anyhow, a Korg artist (as in a musician who works for Korg) confirmed it! There is absolutely nothing to HappyTed's story.

Debunked!!!!
Hey, I didn't say it was fact. Just what another Korg artist who works for Korg has said. The actual upgrade options and price I gave are obviously speculation.

I hope it isn't hearsay too. I'd definitely upgrade my E2 for £100 and have all functionality in one box :)
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Imagine buying a new car, full price.

You take care of it well. It's not perfect, it's not the fastest, but it's fine.

6 months later, you get a letter. The letter says that for an extra $1,000, a mechanic will flip a secret switch that makes it faster and more reliable.

Would you feel like a sucker?
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Post by HappyTed »

Ted3000 wrote:Imagine buying a new car, full price.

You take care of it well. It's not perfect, it's not the fastest, but it's fine.

6 months later, you get a letter. The letter says that for an extra $1,000, a mechanic will flip a secret switch that makes it faster and more reliable.

Would you feel like a sucker?
I bought a car once and found it a bit sluggish so took it in 6 months later and had it race tuned (which I'm told was just like flipping a switch) :P
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Post by Ted3000 »

HappyTed wrote:
I bought a car once and found it a bit sluggish so took it in 6 months later and had it race tuned (which I'm told was just like flipping a switch) :P
My metaphor has backfired.

How about a chocolate bar with a credit-card reader in it? Swipe for the last bite?
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Post by HappyTed »

Ted3000 wrote:
HappyTed wrote:
I bought a car once and found it a bit sluggish so took it in 6 months later and had it race tuned (which I'm told was just like flipping a switch) :P
My metaphor has backfired.

How about a chocolate bar with a credit-card reader in it? Swipe for the last bite?
That's better :)
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Ted3000 wrote:
HappyTed wrote:
I bought a car once and found it a bit sluggish so took it in 6 months later and had it race tuned (which I'm told was just like flipping a switch) :P
My metaphor has backfired.

How about a chocolate bar with a credit-card reader in it? Swipe for the last bite?
Except in reality it would be more like a few extra bites, or a whole new chocolate bar. I don't see the big deal. It's been done with new rom expansions, sound packs and whatever for years. You bought an item that did X because you wanted X. Now the company says you can have Y fore more money. Y took R&D to develop, what's wrong with compensation for work done? Nobody makes you buy Y and you still can do X. How are you being held hostage? Such an entitlement mentality today is ruining everything. Do you get up and go to work every morning for free? And then to claim proudly that a bunch of people will just come together to steal it in the end? No wonder the world is such a sorry place.
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I'm not a fan of companies who release an intentionally crippled product with a must-have "upgrade" planned for later, one that should have been there from the beginning.

If you'd like to salute the flag of capitalism every time someone comes up with a new way to suck money from your bank account, good. You can be the resident Korg defender and I can retire.

But it's a moot argument. Korg just won't do this, it's a terrible idea, a totally made-up rumor. Korg sells hardware, not weapon unlocks in a game app.
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Post by thesigma »

I will agree this is not going to happen, they have already made two seperate devices, they have nothing to gain from it. still lets suppose hypothetically they did, or offered some other "upgrade" for a price:
Ted3000 wrote:I'm not a fan of companies who release an intentionally crippled product with a must-have "upgrade" planned for later, one that should have been there from the beginning.
Nor Am I, however, Are you suggesting that the E2 and E2S are "Crippled" products, and moreover that Korg made them so intentionally? Do I smell a HATER? sorry, couldn't resist. ;)

Explain how exactly would adding features that were never advertised or implied (BY korg themselves in official releases, not something some korg sponsored sound designer said on facebook), be something that "should have been there from the beginning"? The E2 was never advertised as a sampler, the E2S was advertised to have only the electribe filter types and only very basic synthesis. They were both announced at the same time, and if you bought the E2, you got what was advertised........For the most part, Because there were some things implied that have not yet delivered, In MY Opinion, such as the voice stealing( sorry, they said X voices, X filters, and one insert per part, and we all know that is only true under very limited circumstances), and the Gap on the initial firmware (which they fixed) Now if they wanted to charge you for a firmware that fixed those and other BUGS I would agree that would be outrageous. Charging for new features that they never promised, is perfectly within their right, whether you like it or not is your own issue.
If you'd like to salute the flag of capitalism every time someone comes up with a new way to suck money from your bank account, good.
I need not buy anything I consider to be an attempt to suck money from my bank account, except that which is mandated by government, much of which I do not agree with, but still pay because thats the way it goes.

KORG however, is a BUISINESS, not a government, they can't force you to buy anything. Regardless, it cost's money to develop products, they have employee's who work on this stuff, and those employee's have bills to pay and families to feed Just like the rest of us So KORG can charge whatever the heck they want for their products and any upgrades regardless of whether its a physical product or a software one.

I f you don't think the product is worth the money don't buy it, that is your power as a consumer. Your E2 will do everything it always did, regardless of future upgrades you may or may not purchase as you see fit. That doesn't give you a right to steal a product, physical or virtual (software). And Cracking a paid piece of software is theft no grey area or argument about it, period end of story. This is a musical instrument, a luxury item, buy it or don't, i care not. I for one would like them to stay in business to make a better electribe i n the future, because I am exerting my power as a consumer and will not be buying this one.
You can be the resident Korg defender and I can retire.
I have been a fan of korg products since I started making music, I own many, but make no mistake, I am no fanboy. They screw up and I wont defend them and I definitely think that they have made many mistakes surrounding the New electribes, from design decisions, rushed releases, buggy firmware and bizarre at best marketing strategy.
But it's a moot argument. Korg just won't do this, it's a terrible idea, a totally made-up rumor. Korg sells hardware, not weapon unlocks in a game app.
Again, no disagreement here. They do sell a number of apps though....Not sure about IAP (which I also dislike, just tell me the real price of the app) I only have ielectribe and it had no IAPs. Personally I would have rather had one E2 that did sampling and synthesis (including drum synthesis, and let you run user samples through a full synth engine, and I'd have been happy to get it under a grand. and it should do 16 bars at least ](*,)
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Re: Upgrade E2 to ES2 and vice versa!

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HappyTed wrote: I think Korg will price each upgrade option at about $129
Korg needs more money! Give them all your money.
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