Fatar keybeds for Korg synths?

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The Magic Hoof
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Fatar keybeds for Korg synths?

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Korg used both Yamaha and Fatar keybeds for their synths. I have an N364 whose keybed is beyond repair so I'm on the hunt for a replacement keybed. I'm unsure if I can buy a completely different (broken) synth and gut the keybed from it to use as a replacement for the N364's keybed, but I'm pretty certain the N364 has a Fatar-type keybed in it. I can't find a model # or anything on the broken one that I have.

My next option is to buy an N364 that's broken but I'm not having much luck finding one.
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Does anyone have any info on which korg synths used which keybed?
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Yamaha S80, Kronos 61.
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Post by jhulk »

tp9s you can still buy from doepfer

they are used in lots of synths the quasimidi cycber 6 uses the same keybed

as does some synth action kurzweils

the 01w uses yamaha metal keyframes whats the number of keys is your model as that usually when you find its a fatar plastic keybed they are good but if a key stop snaps then you usuaqlly have to replace the keybed

unlike the yamaha versions if they fail you can replace a 12 key section but also they use meta frame stops so dont suffer from the same problem

many a esq1 has been putto the rubbish heap and parted because of this
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I'm not sure that the TP/9S is the exact model. On the Fatar page there aren't the little holes for the keys to snap onto:

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I bought a replacement keybed for the N364. Turns out it's the wrong keybed, but it works. It looks like it has a few more long resistors on it and less stickers with ID numbers like my original one.

The main difference I noticed between the two is that the keybed I got is semi-weighted. It has weights glued underneath each white key and the black keys have an extended piece on them which are the weights. I popped this into my N364 and it works fine.

I'm not sure how to identify a Fatar keybed seeing as there are only seemingly random serial numbers on it in various places. The keybed I got works (and it definitely feels nice too), but I'd like to identify it.
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Apparently I have the same board that's in a Kurzweil K2000, which is noted as being a Fatar TP/9S on a page linked earlier, but I'm not sure.

You can see the exact board I got here: http://tk386.com/k2000_keys/index.html

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The only physical difference is the weighted keys and those long resistor-looking things (yellow and black coating). My original keybed seems to have 1 less or so, plus they're not coated.
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Post by jhulk »

there zero ohms resistors they can be replaced with insulated wire links

that picture you have i noticed it has a bad spring i would change that if i was you

you will find that the weighted versions went into dearer keyboards

what was wrong with your keybed
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That isn't literally the board I bought, it's just the exact model. Mine doesn't have a bad spring :)

You see that black part on the keybed itself where the springs mount onto? There was some black plastic missing on the top side of it so the keys are a little off.

I was surprised that even though I was sent the wrong replacement board that it works anyway. I guess you can take a weighted or semi-weighted board and switch them out at your leisure.
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Post by jhulk »

all fatar are the same height and circuits connection

the waterfall keyboards have squared of keys so its hard to use them but you can use the hammer type to as used in the k2500x and the ensoniq sq2 and ts12
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