Things I REALLY want to see implemented on the new Electribe.
8 bars movements.
IFX lag gap fix and IFX assignable to kaoss pad.
FLUX mode like on the Volca.
More modulation slots than 1 per part.
Micro timing.
These features added would make this THE best groovebox to ever live!
What else would you like to see added?
Electribe2 petition for 8 bars , IFX fix, and FLUX mode
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Glitchcraft
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Electribe2 petition for 8 bars , IFX fix, and FLUX mode
Last edited by Glitchcraft on Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:19 pm, edited 4 times in total.
Re: Electribe2 petition for 8 bars + non quantized beats upd
I suggest you put together a concise request list with just the 8bar, no quantize, slide mode. Explain the features request in detail and use a petition website like change.org to collect online signatures and share it on the facebook electribe groups and here and other forums.Glitchcraft wrote:Please, please, please Korg make a OS update to use 8 bars and turn off quantinazation. These should not be that hard to implement as I have seen DSI listen to their customers and do this for the Tempest. All you would have to do for 8 bars is either make the arrow keys select 5- 8 or a double tap of the number button to make it flash and indicate it's on bars 5 - 8. Turning off the quantizer has been done on the Volca so how come not on the Electribe2? Also throw in a note slide function and this will be the best groovebox ever. All of these are doable fixes unlike the crippling no midi thru and not having extra assignable outputs. Any other updates you would like to see implemented?
Korg gear : EMX1SD, Volca Sample, DS-10
iOS: Gadget, iM1, iElectribe, iMs20, iPolysix, iKaossilator
History : Korg E2, Mini KP, Kaossilator Mini, R3
iOS: Gadget, iM1, iElectribe, iMs20, iPolysix, iKaossilator
History : Korg E2, Mini KP, Kaossilator Mini, R3
I do think it's a jump of the gun. Projecting hopes & fears over something that hasn't even been tried & tested yet. Personally i don't care about what the machine doesn't do, i'm aware of its functions & will still spend my cash because i want one. It's what it can do that interests me. I'm excited about this release.brambos wrote:A petition to change a product that hasn't even reached the shelves yet...? Really?
I get why people want more especially following previous models but there's a poit where the user has to adapt to the product. Who knows, these 'wants' might even be in the pipeline anyway.
My current Korg gear. MS20 Mini... & now the .... Oh, maybe not !
...Had a few other Korg things over the years.
...Had a few other Korg things over the years.
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FreshHorses
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It looks like it is released in Japan, however I agree that is rather silly to demand something before you have tried one. On the other hand half speed is not good solution when you want to integrate/sync it with other gear - lets say Kronos for example - as you have to adjust all your synced programs to half speed.brambos wrote:A petition to change a product that hasn't even reached the shelves yet...? Really?
Anyway I'm afraid it won't be possible to firmware update it to 8 bars as that would require twice more memory allocated for pattern data and Korg would rather did that already if that was possible. So it is what it is. If you don't like it - just don't by it...
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Someday this thread will be understood. Sorry for getting all of you kids upset. Some peoples comments make me shake my head due to the fact of being incorrect with not much knowledge of what a firmware update can do and thinking these requests cannot be done. Time will tell that these features are very capable of being implemented with a update and would be very usefull. Sorry for having a voice that clearly knows what I would like done to make the machine better and if you do not ask you do not get period. Oh and the whole half tempo trick does not work very well when using it to integrate and control a studio full of synths. As is it's a great sounding standalone device that looks fun but as is it is not a replacement to run and sequence a real stdio full of synths and other drum machines.
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.Glitchcraft wrote:Someday this thread will be understood. Sorry for getting all of you kids upset. Some peoples comments make me shake my head due to the fact of being incorrect with not much knowledge of what a firmware update can do and thinking these requests cannot be done
Where did you get your knowledge about groovebox firmware programming?
That's true, but unless the machine has not been released, we do not know wthether there are things which have to be improved more importantly. Maye there are bugs and glitches which have to be adressed first.Time will tell that these features are very capable of being implemented with a update and would be very usefull. Sorry for having a voice that clearly knows what I would like done to make the machine better and if you do not ask you do not get period.
Hä? So the question whether it substitutes a full synth studio or not falls with a 4 bar loop limit?Oh and the whole half tempo trick does not work very well when using it to integrate and control a studio full of synths. As is it's a great sounding standalone device that looks fun but as is it is not a replacement to run and sequence a real stdio full of synths and other drum machines.
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Glitchcraft
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Look at what DSI has done for updates on the Tempest and it is a beast of a groovebox now. Almost all of these were asked for on the DSI board and they listened and did it. 4 to 8 bars, turn off quantinazation and so forth. The people on the DSI forum posted a big thread about what they wanted done but I guess here the rules are different. Take a look at what has been done this is why I am speaking up about what I would like the brains of my studio to do.
Main OS 1.3.3.10
Fixed bug: Removed realtime rewind/ff for now due to a crash bug that will take some time to fix
Fixed bug: OS hangs when receiving project with insufficient memory to write. Now, cancel button works to exit screen. Error message will be added later
Fixed bug: Realtime playlist recording put back in from last OS
Main OS 1.3.3.7
Fixed bug: Playlist timing when switching in realtime was off
Fixed bug: Beat FX cutting out due to fader reset on transition to 16 sounds
Fixed bug: Foot pedal options for FX1-4 didn't have the right text
Fixed bug: Playlist Realtime record option taken out until feature completed
Fixed bug: Problem loading large beats into RAM causing project/beat load failures
Main OS 1.3.3.3
Hold step in 16 time steps and press FF or Rewind to move that step forward/backwards by one quantize amount
Fixed bug: Compressor/distortion settings reverting to project after being saved as beat
Fixed bug: Playlist beat transitions too slow
Fixed bug: Saved distortion not correct
Fixed bug: Sounds sometimes get cutoff in playlist even if step transition hasn't happened
Fixed bug: In playlist, sounds cut off from beat transitions
Fixed bug: SPP not handled correctly while playlist on
Fixed bug: Default compressor envelope set to -127
Fixed bug: Default LFO restart set to 'Off' instead of 'Note' for old beats
Fixed bug: BPM not calculated correct when receiving BPMs above/below min/max
Fixed bug: Recording playlist in slave mode not working correctly
Main OS 1.3.3.1
Fixed bug: Compressor Env Amount displayed as -64 to 190 incorrectly, now displayed as -127 to 127
Fixed bug: Compressor Env Amount defaulting to -127 for old beats
Fixed bug: Turning on playlist shows incorrect timestamp
Fixed bug: Moving through screens in mixer section hangs on delay screen when using up/down arrows
Fixed bug: In 16 delay mixer screen, selected sound box not shaded
Fixed bug: Distortion/Compression levels not restored correctly when set to 'Beat'
Main OS 1.3.3
Compressor Envelope added
Hold shift and move compressor knob to get to envelope edit screen
Press down from envelope edit screen to get to envelope trigger screen
Compressor envelope trigger can be triggered by any sound, even if it's silent
NOTE: This means currently you can't mute this behavior easily
Fixed bug: Cannot select oscillators using osc button
Main OS 1.3.2.3 and Voice OS 1.2.3
WARNING if updating from 1.3.0.10 or earlier: Sequencer data structure has been changed. Any files that are saved in this version are NOT backwards compatible with older versions and may not be retrievable if there is a critical bug somewhere
Added freerunning LFO param to LFO 1 and 2- currently only 'Off' and 'Note' work, 'Beat' and 'Play' will be added soon. Param is in the second page of LFO params
NOTE: This only really works 'correctly' when you have a sound locked to a voice. Otherwise it will get interrupted by any new sounds on the voice
Added beat copy params
Added sound swap mode in copy screen
Added new pedal switch options:
Momentary roll and reverse
Inc/Dec beat
Reset Beat FX
NoteFX 1-4
Encoder 2 now active in 16 Tunings/Sounds/Volumes while roll is on
Added quarter note quantize to roll
Added all modal scales to the end of scale selection
Beat roll quantize encoder now available in 16 mutes mode
Playlist can now be turned on/off in realtime
When bpm set to slave, play button now active
Fixed bug: "Octave" text not displayed in 16 tunings
Fixed bug: Sound copy mixer settings now include sound type and silent flag (internal)
Fixed bug: Sound copy NoteFX not working
Fixed bug: Sounds not holding over beat transitions
Fixed bug: Muting a sound can leave hung notes over MIDI, now sends note off message when muted
Fixed bug: Changing octave in 16 tunings could result in hung MIDI notes
Fixed bug: Certain pad reset behavior could result in hung MIDI notes
Fixed bug: Pedal not controlling reverse correctly
Fixed bug: Some system params not refreshing when system reset done
Fixed bug: Changing from beat mode to sound mode and back to beat mode when slider held gets BeatFX stuck
Fixed bug: VCA release values >= 124 causing stuck notes
Main OS 1.3.1.12
WARNING if updating from 1.3.0.10 or earlier: Sequencer data structure has been changed. Any files that are saved in this version are NOT backwards compatible with older versions and may not be retrievable if there is a critical bug somewhere
Added beatFX destination of Beat Roll No Triplets that controls beat roll without passing through the triplet values
Fixed bug: Beat roll using slider causing sync issues
Fixed bug: Note entry in 16 time steps not inputting velocity correctly
Fixed bug: Arp not responding to fixed level on
Main OS 1.3.1.11
Fixed bug: Global param reset causing all globals to be set to incorrect values
Fixed bug: FF/Rewind causing reset to playlist beat even when playlist off
Fixed bug: On beat transitions, first MIDI note to sequencer not played
Fixed bug: Some cases where MIDI sequencer out not sending note offs causing hung notes
Fixed bug: Incoming SPP messages not setting sequencer to correct place
Fixed bug: MIDI CC control of beatFX not working correctly
Fixed bug: Sounds not exporting correctly over hard MIDI when using directory or 'all' export file commands
Main OS 1.3.1.6
Added arpeggiator modes to roll behavior as follows:
When roll active and in 16 tunings/levels/sounds pad function, soft encoders change to roll parameters
New roll (arp) params are mode (Retrig, Up, Down, Up/Down, Random, Assign) and octaves (0-2)
Retrig mode acts identically to current roll mode
Added copy modes in copy pending screen
4 params added to soft encoders in copy pending screen to select which params are copied when you copy a sound
Sound selects whether sound params are copied
Seq selects whether sequence is copied from one pad to another (NOTE: like sound params this clears the sequencer of the destination pad. In the case that there are already 8 note events in a particular step, that note event will not be copied)
NoteFX selects whether Note FX assignments (not the Note FX sequences) are copied
Mixer selects whether the mixer parameters are copied
Added BeatFX to CC on main MIDI channel as follows:
CC# 12 - Distortion
CC# 13 - Compression
CC# 19 - a value other than 0 reverts Beat FX params to defaults
CC# 20 - Beat FX All Osc Frequency
CC# 21 - Beat FX Feedback
CC# 22 - Beat FX Lowpass Filter Cutoff
CC# 23 - Beat FX Lowpass Filter Resonance
CC# 24 - Beat FX Lowpass Filter Audio Mod
CC# 25 - Beat FX Highpass Filter Cutoff
CC# 26 - Beat FX All Env Attack
CC# 27 - Beat FX All Env Decay
Mute/Solo toggle no longer cuts off tails from notes triggered by the sequencer
Added quantize encoder to 16 tunings screen
Switched soft encoder assignments in 16 tunings pad mode moving scale to 4th encoder so 1st encoder is consistently quantize amount across all pad modes
Fixed bug: Hung notes from ADSR notes with delay
Fixed bug: All Mute Off not turning mute off for both A and B sound banks
Fixed bug: USB MIDI channel not handled correctly causing odd MIDI behavior in some cases
Fixed bug: Removed unused flag from Note Event param list
Main OS 1.3.0.12
Extended bar count to 8 bars per beat
Added new quantize value of 'Off' which allows unquantized recording that automatically populates the 'delay time' variable based on when the step was recorded
Note that there are not advanced editing features at this time so there is no easy way to quantize everything at once. This will be added in a later version
Added system variable for Mute/Solo behavior that allows you to mute only the sequencer or have it mute/solo both sequencer and live playback
Added system variable for Sound Slider Mode allowing you to control sounds with the sliders in realtime
Note: This does not change recording the params, they are still step only
Sounds now hold over beat transitions
Added numbers to sample list for Osc 3/4
Added quick navigation through categories in Osc 3/4 sample selection: hold 'shift' and use the shape or soft encoder assigned to shape to navigate through categories
Improved pot hysteresis when pad function changed and pot has not been touched
Fixed bug: Sequencer out incorrectly stealing a voice
Note: For now, any sound assigned to the MIDI Sequencer channel does not trigger sounds in the Tempest, only external
Fixed bug: SPP handling incorrect
Fixed bug: When swing set to system soft encoders controlling swing param not functioning
Fixed bug: Pitch wheel not reset on beat loads
Main OS 1.3.3.10
Fixed bug: Removed realtime rewind/ff for now due to a crash bug that will take some time to fix
Fixed bug: OS hangs when receiving project with insufficient memory to write. Now, cancel button works to exit screen. Error message will be added later
Fixed bug: Realtime playlist recording put back in from last OS
Main OS 1.3.3.7
Fixed bug: Playlist timing when switching in realtime was off
Fixed bug: Beat FX cutting out due to fader reset on transition to 16 sounds
Fixed bug: Foot pedal options for FX1-4 didn't have the right text
Fixed bug: Playlist Realtime record option taken out until feature completed
Fixed bug: Problem loading large beats into RAM causing project/beat load failures
Main OS 1.3.3.3
Hold step in 16 time steps and press FF or Rewind to move that step forward/backwards by one quantize amount
Fixed bug: Compressor/distortion settings reverting to project after being saved as beat
Fixed bug: Playlist beat transitions too slow
Fixed bug: Saved distortion not correct
Fixed bug: Sounds sometimes get cutoff in playlist even if step transition hasn't happened
Fixed bug: In playlist, sounds cut off from beat transitions
Fixed bug: SPP not handled correctly while playlist on
Fixed bug: Default compressor envelope set to -127
Fixed bug: Default LFO restart set to 'Off' instead of 'Note' for old beats
Fixed bug: BPM not calculated correct when receiving BPMs above/below min/max
Fixed bug: Recording playlist in slave mode not working correctly
Main OS 1.3.3.1
Fixed bug: Compressor Env Amount displayed as -64 to 190 incorrectly, now displayed as -127 to 127
Fixed bug: Compressor Env Amount defaulting to -127 for old beats
Fixed bug: Turning on playlist shows incorrect timestamp
Fixed bug: Moving through screens in mixer section hangs on delay screen when using up/down arrows
Fixed bug: In 16 delay mixer screen, selected sound box not shaded
Fixed bug: Distortion/Compression levels not restored correctly when set to 'Beat'
Main OS 1.3.3
Compressor Envelope added
Hold shift and move compressor knob to get to envelope edit screen
Press down from envelope edit screen to get to envelope trigger screen
Compressor envelope trigger can be triggered by any sound, even if it's silent
NOTE: This means currently you can't mute this behavior easily
Fixed bug: Cannot select oscillators using osc button
Main OS 1.3.2.3 and Voice OS 1.2.3
WARNING if updating from 1.3.0.10 or earlier: Sequencer data structure has been changed. Any files that are saved in this version are NOT backwards compatible with older versions and may not be retrievable if there is a critical bug somewhere
Added freerunning LFO param to LFO 1 and 2- currently only 'Off' and 'Note' work, 'Beat' and 'Play' will be added soon. Param is in the second page of LFO params
NOTE: This only really works 'correctly' when you have a sound locked to a voice. Otherwise it will get interrupted by any new sounds on the voice
Added beat copy params
Added sound swap mode in copy screen
Added new pedal switch options:
Momentary roll and reverse
Inc/Dec beat
Reset Beat FX
NoteFX 1-4
Encoder 2 now active in 16 Tunings/Sounds/Volumes while roll is on
Added quarter note quantize to roll
Added all modal scales to the end of scale selection
Beat roll quantize encoder now available in 16 mutes mode
Playlist can now be turned on/off in realtime
When bpm set to slave, play button now active
Fixed bug: "Octave" text not displayed in 16 tunings
Fixed bug: Sound copy mixer settings now include sound type and silent flag (internal)
Fixed bug: Sound copy NoteFX not working
Fixed bug: Sounds not holding over beat transitions
Fixed bug: Muting a sound can leave hung notes over MIDI, now sends note off message when muted
Fixed bug: Changing octave in 16 tunings could result in hung MIDI notes
Fixed bug: Certain pad reset behavior could result in hung MIDI notes
Fixed bug: Pedal not controlling reverse correctly
Fixed bug: Some system params not refreshing when system reset done
Fixed bug: Changing from beat mode to sound mode and back to beat mode when slider held gets BeatFX stuck
Fixed bug: VCA release values >= 124 causing stuck notes
Main OS 1.3.1.12
WARNING if updating from 1.3.0.10 or earlier: Sequencer data structure has been changed. Any files that are saved in this version are NOT backwards compatible with older versions and may not be retrievable if there is a critical bug somewhere
Added beatFX destination of Beat Roll No Triplets that controls beat roll without passing through the triplet values
Fixed bug: Beat roll using slider causing sync issues
Fixed bug: Note entry in 16 time steps not inputting velocity correctly
Fixed bug: Arp not responding to fixed level on
Main OS 1.3.1.11
Fixed bug: Global param reset causing all globals to be set to incorrect values
Fixed bug: FF/Rewind causing reset to playlist beat even when playlist off
Fixed bug: On beat transitions, first MIDI note to sequencer not played
Fixed bug: Some cases where MIDI sequencer out not sending note offs causing hung notes
Fixed bug: Incoming SPP messages not setting sequencer to correct place
Fixed bug: MIDI CC control of beatFX not working correctly
Fixed bug: Sounds not exporting correctly over hard MIDI when using directory or 'all' export file commands
Main OS 1.3.1.6
Added arpeggiator modes to roll behavior as follows:
When roll active and in 16 tunings/levels/sounds pad function, soft encoders change to roll parameters
New roll (arp) params are mode (Retrig, Up, Down, Up/Down, Random, Assign) and octaves (0-2)
Retrig mode acts identically to current roll mode
Added copy modes in copy pending screen
4 params added to soft encoders in copy pending screen to select which params are copied when you copy a sound
Sound selects whether sound params are copied
Seq selects whether sequence is copied from one pad to another (NOTE: like sound params this clears the sequencer of the destination pad. In the case that there are already 8 note events in a particular step, that note event will not be copied)
NoteFX selects whether Note FX assignments (not the Note FX sequences) are copied
Mixer selects whether the mixer parameters are copied
Added BeatFX to CC on main MIDI channel as follows:
CC# 12 - Distortion
CC# 13 - Compression
CC# 19 - a value other than 0 reverts Beat FX params to defaults
CC# 20 - Beat FX All Osc Frequency
CC# 21 - Beat FX Feedback
CC# 22 - Beat FX Lowpass Filter Cutoff
CC# 23 - Beat FX Lowpass Filter Resonance
CC# 24 - Beat FX Lowpass Filter Audio Mod
CC# 25 - Beat FX Highpass Filter Cutoff
CC# 26 - Beat FX All Env Attack
CC# 27 - Beat FX All Env Decay
Mute/Solo toggle no longer cuts off tails from notes triggered by the sequencer
Added quantize encoder to 16 tunings screen
Switched soft encoder assignments in 16 tunings pad mode moving scale to 4th encoder so 1st encoder is consistently quantize amount across all pad modes
Fixed bug: Hung notes from ADSR notes with delay
Fixed bug: All Mute Off not turning mute off for both A and B sound banks
Fixed bug: USB MIDI channel not handled correctly causing odd MIDI behavior in some cases
Fixed bug: Removed unused flag from Note Event param list
Main OS 1.3.0.12
Extended bar count to 8 bars per beat
Added new quantize value of 'Off' which allows unquantized recording that automatically populates the 'delay time' variable based on when the step was recorded
Note that there are not advanced editing features at this time so there is no easy way to quantize everything at once. This will be added in a later version
Added system variable for Mute/Solo behavior that allows you to mute only the sequencer or have it mute/solo both sequencer and live playback
Added system variable for Sound Slider Mode allowing you to control sounds with the sliders in realtime
Note: This does not change recording the params, they are still step only
Sounds now hold over beat transitions
Added numbers to sample list for Osc 3/4
Added quick navigation through categories in Osc 3/4 sample selection: hold 'shift' and use the shape or soft encoder assigned to shape to navigate through categories
Improved pot hysteresis when pad function changed and pot has not been touched
Fixed bug: Sequencer out incorrectly stealing a voice
Note: For now, any sound assigned to the MIDI Sequencer channel does not trigger sounds in the Tempest, only external
Fixed bug: SPP handling incorrect
Fixed bug: When swing set to system soft encoders controlling swing param not functioning
Fixed bug: Pitch wheel not reset on beat loads