NEW TYROS, IS NEW ZEUS
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NEW TYROS, IS NEW ZEUS
New KB coming from YAMAHA, and The name is ZEUS!
Well we will see in frankfurt i hope.
Well we will see in frankfurt i hope.
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Re: NEW TYROS, IS NEW ZEUS
another ROMpler (with twise of memory of the previouse model)? give me a breakAsena wrote:New KB coming from YAMAHA, and The name is ZEUS!
Well we will see in frankfurt i hope.

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Re: NEW TYROS, IS NEW ZEUS
Please provide your definition of ROMpler. You don't seem to know what ROMpler means.chilly7 wrote:another ROMpler (with twise of memory of the previouse model)? give me a break
Re: NEW TYROS, IS NEW ZEUS
Here is what i think:xmlguy wrote:chilly7 wrote:another ROMpler (with twise of memory of the previouse model)? give me a break
Please provide your definition of ROMpler. You don't seem to know what ROMpler means.
ROMpler is a synthesizer wich uses low definition sample playback engine in which most samples are compressed and lopped and strached and when that crupp is uncompressed it is back at 16bit/44.1khz. The ROM size usally is a couple mb which is a joke in 2013 year, and was a joke in 2012 and was a joke in 2011 and so on...
but actuay it is even not a true 16bit/44.1khz sample rate because if u noticed they write with a very small print "when converted to 16-bit linear format" so it means in real world that the source samples are not true 16bit/44.1khz but they are compressed,
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Re: NEW TYROS, IS NEW ZEUS
What makes a keyboard be a ROMpler is the lack of updateability and limited or no synthesis beyond playing those ROM waveforms. They are read-only sample players. The content of the ROM, the quality, compression, looping, etc. is a separate problem that can exist on samplers or ROMplers, but has nothing to do with whether the keyboard is a ROMpler or not. The issue of the ROM content is certainly a bigger problem with ROMplers precisely because you're stuck with whatever is in ROM, but it's not what defines the keyboard to be a ROMpler. The Tyros and Fantom are samplers. If you don't like what's in ROM, you can add your own samples and build new programs with them. They certainly are NOT ROMplers because they aren't merely read-only sample players. I started learning synthesis long before ROMplers existed, so I was around to observe the term being used to describe the limited nature of these sample-based players. By your definition, the Fairlight CMI would be considered a ROMpler, yet it is anything but limited to sample playback from ROM, despite 8 bit sampling with tiny amounts of RAM and storage by today's standards.chilly7 wrote:Here is what i think:xmlguy wrote:chilly7 wrote:another ROMpler (with twise of memory of the previouse model)? give me a break
Please provide your definition of ROMpler. You don't seem to know what ROMpler means.
ROMpler is a synthesizer wich uses low definition sample playback engine in which most samples are compressed and lopped and strached and when that crupp is uncompressed it is back at 16bit/44.1khz. The ROM size usally is a couple mb which is a joke in 2013 year, and was a joke in 2012 and was a joke in 2011 and so on...
but actuay it is even not a true 16bit/44.1khz sample rate because if u noticed they write with a very small print "when converted to 16-bit linear format" so it means in real world that the source samples are not true 16bit/44.1khz but they are compressed,
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OK so here's the proof of what's what - can't argue with WIKI:-
Zeus (Ancient Greek: Ζεύς, Zeús; Modern Greek: Δίας, Días) is the "Father of Gods and men"
Kronos (or Cronus), a Titan, the father of Zeus, Poseidon, Hades, Hestia, Demeter, and Hera.
Yeah!!!!

Zeus (Ancient Greek: Ζεύς, Zeús; Modern Greek: Δίας, Días) is the "Father of Gods and men"
Kronos (or Cronus), a Titan, the father of Zeus, Poseidon, Hades, Hestia, Demeter, and Hera.
Yeah!!!!

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Re: NEW TYROS, IS NEW ZEUS
Pics or it didn't happen...Asena wrote:New KB coming from YAMAHA, and The name is ZEUS!
Well we will see in frankfurt i hope.

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Re: NEW TYROS, IS NEW ZEUS
chilly7 wrote:Here is what i think:xmlguy wrote:chilly7 wrote:another ROMpler (with twise of memory of the previouse model)? give me a break
Please provide your definition of ROMpler. You don't seem to know what ROMpler means.
ROMpler is a synthesizer wich uses low definition sample playback engine in which most samples are compressed and lopped and strached and when that crupp is uncompressed it is back at 16bit/44.1khz. The ROM size usally is a couple mb which is a joke in 2013 year, and was a joke in 2012 and was a joke in 2011 and so on...
but actuay it is even not a true 16bit/44.1khz sample rate because if u noticed they write with a very small print "when converted to 16-bit linear format" so it means in real world that the source samples are not true 16bit/44.1khz but they are compressed,
Both Kronos and OASYS use UNCOMPRESSED samples. YDKS.
Re: NEW TYROS, IS NEW ZEUS
Thank u for the explanation.xmlguy wrote:What makes a keyboard be a ROMpler is the lack of updateability and limited or no synthesis beyond playing those ROM waveforms. They are read-only sample players. The content of the ROM, the quality, compression, looping, etc. is a separate problem that can exist on samplers or ROMplers, but has nothing to do with whether the keyboard is a ROMpler or not. The issue of the ROM content is certainly a bigger problem with ROMplers precisely because you're stuck with whatever is in ROM, but it's not what defines the keyboard to be a ROMpler. The Tyros and Fantom are samplers. If you don't like what's in ROM, you can add your own samples and build new programs with them. They certainly are NOT ROMplers because they aren't merely read-only sample players. I started learning synthesis long before ROMplers existed, so I was around to observe the term being used to describe the limited nature of these sample-based players. By your definition, the Fairlight CMI would be considered a ROMpler, yet it is anything but limited to sample playback from ROM, despite 8 bit sampling with tiny amounts of RAM and storage by today's standards.chilly7 wrote:Here is what i think:xmlguy wrote:
Please provide your definition of ROMpler. You don't seem to know what ROMpler means.
ROMpler is a synthesizer wich uses low definition sample playback engine in which most samples are compressed and lopped and strached and when that crupp is uncompressed it is back at 16bit/44.1khz. The ROM size usally is a couple mb which is a joke in 2013 year, and was a joke in 2012 and was a joke in 2011 and so on...
but actuay it is even not a true 16bit/44.1khz sample rate because if u noticed they write with a very small print "when converted to 16-bit linear format" so it means in real world that the source samples are not true 16bit/44.1khz but they are compressed,
Year, i know the original definition to what means ROMpler, i just desided to add my own color

P.s. By the way Kontakt 5 is a ROMpler too by the difinition, but i will not call it that way because it is really good and does not have weakness wich hardware saple playback keyboards has.

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Year, i did not mean Kronos,Oasys.EvilDragon wrote:chilly7 wrote:Here is what i think:xmlguy wrote:
Please provide your definition of ROMpler. You don't seem to know what ROMpler means.
ROMpler is a synthesizer wich uses low definition sample playback engine in which most samples are compressed and lopped and strached and when that crupp is uncompressed it is back at 16bit/44.1khz. The ROM size usally is a couple mb which is a joke in 2013 year, and was a joke in 2012 and was a joke in 2011 and so on...
but actuay it is even not a true 16bit/44.1khz sample rate because if u noticed they write with a very small print "when converted to 16-bit linear format" so it means in real world that the source samples are not true 16bit/44.1khz but they are compressed,
Both Kronos and OASYS use UNCOMPRESSED samples. YDKS.
I mean Yamaha Motif XS,XF ,Yamaha Tyros, Roland Fantom G ,Kurzweil Pc3k8 and other junk which are based on prehistoric technologies...
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