Can someone help me out with this answer I got from Korg

meloproductionz · Post by **meloproductionz** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:09 pm

Can someone help me out with this answer i got from Korg regarding the Krome

"Yes, the Krome features an SD card slot in the rear panel where you can save sequences (SNG files), or the bounced WAV.

can someone tell me what they mean by "Bounced WAV"

sorry I'm new to workstation and i'm not sure what they mean by that

dose it mean once I have a song completed I can export it as a WAV??

miden · Post by **miden** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:23 pm

all I can think of is it means multiple audio tracks bounced to a stereo wav, broadcast wav or MP3 file..

But that is a guess....as I have just found out for myself, Korg US tech support is crapola..

That very cryptic answer to someone new trying to seek knowledge now seems pretty typical of people (Korg tech support) only interested in getting users off the phone in the quickest way possible with the least bit of empathy!!

meloproductionz · Post by **meloproductionz** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 7:53 pm

miden wrote:all I can think of is it means multiple audio tracks bounced to a stereo wav, broadcast wav or MP3 file..

But that is a guess....as I have just found out for myself, Korg US tech support is crapola..

That very cryptic answer to someone new trying to seek knowledge now seems pretty typical of people (Korg tech support) only interested in getting users off the phone in the quickest way possible with the least bit of empathy!!

Yeah buddy That's all the info I was giving I was hoping they would go into little more detail but never happen

kimu · Post by **kimu** » Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:00 pm

It seems the korg us is telling us that krome has the sampling features. With sampling you can sample the audio outputs directly creating a wav file inside the workstation.

This is how m3 works for example.

Either korg has cut n paste the answer from somewhere or krome can sample with a future os

Basement Music · Post by **Basement Music** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:54 pm

Hi,

"Yes, the Krome features an SD card slot in the rear panel where you can save sequences (SNG files), or the bounced WAV."

Does this mean that once I have a finished song I can record the final mix as a stereo wav file on the SD card by playing it on the internal sequencer? If yes, anyone knows the possible bit-rate and frequency settings for the recording?

Thanks,
BM

kimu · Post by **kimu** » Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:00 pm

For what I know, this requires sampling onboard as happens in m3.

in m3 you can sample the audio out in the box creating a wav file on sd. If I do not remember wrong it is a cd -like wave: 16bit @44.1khz

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 8:44 pm

Um, no, this is a classic case of not having read the manual. Bouncing a WAV means that yes, you can export a finished song as an audio (WAV) file to the SD card. It has nothing to do with sampling, which the Krome doesn't have, after all.

Chriskk · Post by **Chriskk** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:22 pm

The Korg guy copied and pasted.

You can store Word files on an SD card, and that doesn't mean that you can use the Krome as a word processor.

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:50 pm

Copied and pasted from the Krome manual. Which is why it doesn't mention Word files, but only files that you can create on the Krome itself.

kimu · Post by **kimu** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:16 am

SanderXpander wrote:Um, no, this is a classic case of not having read the manual. Bouncing a WAV means that yes, you can export a finished song as an audio (WAV) file to the SD card. It has nothing to do with sampling, which the Krome doesn't have, after all.

in m3 this is done using sampling. i 100% sure of this.

in krome this a real available feature w/o internal sampling option?
(don't own a krome so cannot try)

billbaker · Post by **billbaker** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:07 pm

Kimu,

This is becoming a circular discussion, so please allow me to sum up the gist of several threads.

First, sampling, per se, is not a feature that KORG has said Krome can do. No user loadable samples, no sample menu, no section in the manual, no "wait for it" noticies, no mention of a software or hardware add-on to do sampling.

A youtube video was released by an individual -- not Korg, not Korg affiliate AFAIK - that showed user samples loaded (my recollection was vocal loops and maybe a beat) - no how-to procedure (or only very sketchy description). The video was subsequently withdrawn - presumably at Korg's request. There are several reasons this could be so; a user hack of software potentially violating warantee, use of a proprietary feature used by developers pre-release for which a non-disclosure agreement had been signed, to prevent a free-"wiki"-style disemination of a proprietary feature (sampling) planned for sale... (insert your own).

Several weeks after the initial posting and withdrawal of the video as second video was released -- under the banner of Import Music Peru -- describing a procedure for loading distributor-provided samples, with a .pcg file using the samples to make custom sounds. Again the procedure was sketchily described except for "insert card + power-on with button push" procedure such as you would find with a reset. Supposedly this loads new sounds. These Latin samples are touted as exclusive for their customers. As of my last check there was no Krome section at IMP's web-site, and so no information except the "under construction" sign.

"Sample" Files, ssd card, sample feature details are not available at Korg USA, UK, Corp. (yet)

Theres no "stay tuned for an exciting announcement" @ Korg. (yet)

There are no IMP posted details - no separate price, no details aside from video. (yet)

No files, no posts, no user confirmation. (yet)

Now this thread asks about sampling as well.

I don't know what sampling features, if any, are supported or whether the .wav sampling mentioned is part of the "normal" recording features associated with the sequencer.

So far all we have is speculation, overdeveloped expectaions and a youtube fueled sense of entitlement. And maybe more hope that korg counted on.

BB

kimu · Post by **kimu** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 3:16 pm

hi BB,

thx for recap, i had follow all of it in the forum.

my question was just if the "bounce to .wave file" is actually a feature of krome or not besides sampling in itself.

i do not own krome and have not way to try one so far, so reading about possibility to bounce directly from sequencer a wave file sounds surprising to me being a korg workstation user for almost 15 year now and having seeing such features only where sampling option where installed.

so, if anyone with krome can say, yes it's possible or not it is not possible, that will be welcome.

JPWC · Post by **JPWC** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 6:55 pm

No, Your email has an error. Media Mode does not currently support audio files, no wav's, no aiff's. There is no "bounce-to-wav" feature available in the Krome (as yet).

Straight from the manual:

Media mode
You can save or load data using an SD card. In Media mode, you can:
• Save and load Programs, Combinations, Songs, and Global setup data.
• Format SD card, copy and rename files, etc.
• Perform file operations such as copying data to or from media.
• Export and import sequences to and from SMF (Standard MIDI Files).
• Use the Data Filer function to save or load MIDI System Exclusive data.

JPWC · Post by **JPWC** » Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:03 pm

no wonder mfg's don't like forums, an error or misquote in an email and people jump all over speculations of features, untapped features, future developments, or disappointments. :3d-faint:

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:16 am

Sorry for adding to the confusion!