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if u are not from people who have chiken brain
u should watch this movie
1) http://vimeo.com/13726978 ( skip moveie until 37 minute and anjoy)
2) http://vimeo.com/13770061
3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w
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Some context before we buffer tens of minutes of video before being able to play it back, please?
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You have to have a chicken brain to believe those videos. The manipulative tricks the producer used are the only thing that's needed to show that it's intended to be completely deceptive.
For example, the section about the "explosion" or suggestions of a bomb in the WTC attack can only be believed by people who are completely ignorant of how explosives work, physics, and how most of the live media report near the event are done by reporters who have mouths without a brain that is capable of critical thinking.
What exactly is an explosion? When I open a soda can and it pops with liquid squirting out, is that an explosion? If an airplane drops an engine from 30,000 feet, and it hits a house, demolishing it, is that an explosion? There are no explosives involved whatsoever, but the effect looks very much like an explosion with explosives to an ignorant person.
How about a gas leak, where a house is blown to splinters? Is that an explosion? If a pressure cooker cracks under pressure and sprays hot liquid all around, is that an explosion? Yes, they are all kinds of explosions, but they are not the same kind of explosions nor are any explosive chemicals or materials used.
The WTC building had a tremendous amount of energy stored in them. It took 10 years of lifting materials to get them to that height, all of which was being held up by the steel structure. Anything that could have caused that structure to weaken would result in a huge amount of energy merely due to gravity. A 1,000 pound chunk of concrete dropped from that height will disintegrate to powder when it hits the ground, merely due to the kinetic energy released when it suddenly stops after reaching it's terminal velocity.
I watched the towers when they came down. I've also seen dozens of explosive demolitions. They were not even remotely similar if you look only at the initiating events instead of the results. Of course the results look the same, even if they had completely different reasons for the structure to fail. Explosives are more than just a loud noise. High explosives have different characteristics than other low velocity explosions. There are visible pressure waves. There's high velocity particles that are expelled. You can see the pressure waves very easily with any smoke, dust or mist around, and large explosions cause the air to become cloudy merely due to the compression and decompression of the sonic wave. You will also see materials ejected in front of the pressure wave, because they are travelling at supersonic speeds and may cause their own pressure waves. I saw no evidence of any high explosive materials.
What that video is doing is merely collecting the nonsense that people spew when they see something that they don't understand. They will try to relate it to other things they've seen that look similar, even though they don't really understand it. People like to talk about things. That's what they do. It doesn't matter to this filmmaker that what these people say should be viewed with a higher level of analysis and critical thinking than merely accepting a stack of bullshit to be a diamond of truth merely because there's a lot of it. The film maker is hoping that people will be fooled by this technique. Most people will simply give up trying to evaluate it, because there's just way too much bullshit being thrown and no time given for actually thinking about what's being said. That's the goal - to bully the listener into accepting their version of the "truth" by bombarding them with the same (wrong) information. Does 10,000 people saying it was a bomb make it any more truthful than if 100, 10, 1, or 100,000 people say the same thing? No. All it takes is one fact or cogent argument to dismiss an unlimited number of opinions for what they are - wrong, ignorant, and misinformed judgments.
What you should be looking for is the evidence of propaganda in the videos you watch. These videos are filled with manipulative propaganda techniques. You don't need to evaluate everything that the video says in order to recognize that it's not worth doing. The intent of the video is to fill it with so much wrong information that it's impossible to verify even a tiny fraction of it. It's just easier to use a sample of the video, determine if it's wrong or deceptive, then just use that as an accurate predictor that it's not worth looking at the whole pile of crap when you discover that the shovelful you just sampled, is indeed, crap.
For example, the section about the "explosion" or suggestions of a bomb in the WTC attack can only be believed by people who are completely ignorant of how explosives work, physics, and how most of the live media report near the event are done by reporters who have mouths without a brain that is capable of critical thinking.
What exactly is an explosion? When I open a soda can and it pops with liquid squirting out, is that an explosion? If an airplane drops an engine from 30,000 feet, and it hits a house, demolishing it, is that an explosion? There are no explosives involved whatsoever, but the effect looks very much like an explosion with explosives to an ignorant person.
How about a gas leak, where a house is blown to splinters? Is that an explosion? If a pressure cooker cracks under pressure and sprays hot liquid all around, is that an explosion? Yes, they are all kinds of explosions, but they are not the same kind of explosions nor are any explosive chemicals or materials used.
The WTC building had a tremendous amount of energy stored in them. It took 10 years of lifting materials to get them to that height, all of which was being held up by the steel structure. Anything that could have caused that structure to weaken would result in a huge amount of energy merely due to gravity. A 1,000 pound chunk of concrete dropped from that height will disintegrate to powder when it hits the ground, merely due to the kinetic energy released when it suddenly stops after reaching it's terminal velocity.
I watched the towers when they came down. I've also seen dozens of explosive demolitions. They were not even remotely similar if you look only at the initiating events instead of the results. Of course the results look the same, even if they had completely different reasons for the structure to fail. Explosives are more than just a loud noise. High explosives have different characteristics than other low velocity explosions. There are visible pressure waves. There's high velocity particles that are expelled. You can see the pressure waves very easily with any smoke, dust or mist around, and large explosions cause the air to become cloudy merely due to the compression and decompression of the sonic wave. You will also see materials ejected in front of the pressure wave, because they are travelling at supersonic speeds and may cause their own pressure waves. I saw no evidence of any high explosive materials.
What that video is doing is merely collecting the nonsense that people spew when they see something that they don't understand. They will try to relate it to other things they've seen that look similar, even though they don't really understand it. People like to talk about things. That's what they do. It doesn't matter to this filmmaker that what these people say should be viewed with a higher level of analysis and critical thinking than merely accepting a stack of bullshit to be a diamond of truth merely because there's a lot of it. The film maker is hoping that people will be fooled by this technique. Most people will simply give up trying to evaluate it, because there's just way too much bullshit being thrown and no time given for actually thinking about what's being said. That's the goal - to bully the listener into accepting their version of the "truth" by bombarding them with the same (wrong) information. Does 10,000 people saying it was a bomb make it any more truthful than if 100, 10, 1, or 100,000 people say the same thing? No. All it takes is one fact or cogent argument to dismiss an unlimited number of opinions for what they are - wrong, ignorant, and misinformed judgments.
What you should be looking for is the evidence of propaganda in the videos you watch. These videos are filled with manipulative propaganda techniques. You don't need to evaluate everything that the video says in order to recognize that it's not worth doing. The intent of the video is to fill it with so much wrong information that it's impossible to verify even a tiny fraction of it. It's just easier to use a sample of the video, determine if it's wrong or deceptive, then just use that as an accurate predictor that it's not worth looking at the whole pile of crap when you discover that the shovelful you just sampled, is indeed, crap.
Well consider many fakts that George H. W. Bush has made so many tries and did some many provocation to begin 3dr world war with Soviet Union but lackely for all of us failed, i am not suppries that his sone is the same davil as him or even more....
and even with out seen this movie i am not supprised that American president (Bush) with help of CIA and other bitches have killed their own American inosent people in order to begin the war in Iraq because of oil and money.
p.s. when i am watching thouse videos from september 11 when people falling from the towers awry time i am crying.... and awry time i strongly wished i could do something or prevent it
p.s. now the new lair is president Obama who is just Bush 2.0 and the story continues, they need oil from Lybia so Bin Ladan is not needed any more so thay killed him and now the number one enemy is Kaduffi.
and then who is next #1 enemy?
Russia?
Well until Russia has the best military in the world and until thay have nuckler weapon thay cannot do anything...
but thouse bitches like Bush or Obama will look enemies all over the world, because of money, oil and so on. and thay don't care about the own American people nur about forighn people.
I guess the best president in US history was Keneddy, because he really cared about people, but he was killed.
well in conclusion if people will begin think stronly what thay are doing, something will change but if thay will be like chikens there will be Bush 3.0 and 4.0 and so on until all earth resurses will dissapear and the world will come to chaous and self destraction
and even with out seen this movie i am not supprised that American president (Bush) with help of CIA and other bitches have killed their own American inosent people in order to begin the war in Iraq because of oil and money.
p.s. when i am watching thouse videos from september 11 when people falling from the towers awry time i am crying.... and awry time i strongly wished i could do something or prevent it
p.s. now the new lair is president Obama who is just Bush 2.0 and the story continues, they need oil from Lybia so Bin Ladan is not needed any more so thay killed him and now the number one enemy is Kaduffi.
and then who is next #1 enemy?
Russia?
Well until Russia has the best military in the world and until thay have nuckler weapon thay cannot do anything...
but thouse bitches like Bush or Obama will look enemies all over the world, because of money, oil and so on. and thay don't care about the own American people nur about forighn people.
I guess the best president in US history was Keneddy, because he really cared about people, but he was killed.
well in conclusion if people will begin think stronly what thay are doing, something will change but if thay will be like chikens there will be Bush 3.0 and 4.0 and so on until all earth resurses will dissapear and the world will come to chaous and self destraction
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Why is it so hard to understand that a large airplane filled with jet fuel hitting a skycraper at 500 miles per hour has the capability to bring down the building? There was no water being dumped into the fire on those floors. It took 45 minutes to an hour for firefighters merely to get up to the floors where the impact occurred, where they only had time to assess the situation and to try to evacuate survivors. There was no effective fire suppression that could have been done in that scenario.
The hijackers were able to take over the planes. They crashed them into the towers, the Pentagon, and they would've hit the Capitol Building or White house if it wasn't for the passengers who prevented it after they were told by cell phone what had already happened. The Pentagon section that was hit also collapsed, but it just wasn't as dramatic because it wasn't tall. That is a more hardened structure than commercial buildings, and it collapsed too.
Buildings aren't constructed to survive an impact by a large plane. Why do you think there's anything necessary besides the obvious? If the same thing happened to any skyscraper in the world, the same result will occur. It will collapse. They aren't designed for that scenario. They are designed with fire suppression that can only handle localized fires with the contents of the commercial occupants. Commercial occupants have furniture, desks, and files, not thousands of gallons of airplane fuel that hit the structure at 500 mph. An airplane IS a bomb when used this way.
You can believe all the conspiracy theories you want, but you're the one that's falling for a bunch of BS if you don't think a jumbo jet can bring down any skycraper that it hits above a certain level above the ground, where only quick and effective fire suppression could prevent the structure from failing. You are giving GW Bush far too much credit for being able to pull off an elaborate hoax when he could barely put together a paragraph without flubbing part of it.
The hijackers were able to take over the planes. They crashed them into the towers, the Pentagon, and they would've hit the Capitol Building or White house if it wasn't for the passengers who prevented it after they were told by cell phone what had already happened. The Pentagon section that was hit also collapsed, but it just wasn't as dramatic because it wasn't tall. That is a more hardened structure than commercial buildings, and it collapsed too.
Buildings aren't constructed to survive an impact by a large plane. Why do you think there's anything necessary besides the obvious? If the same thing happened to any skyscraper in the world, the same result will occur. It will collapse. They aren't designed for that scenario. They are designed with fire suppression that can only handle localized fires with the contents of the commercial occupants. Commercial occupants have furniture, desks, and files, not thousands of gallons of airplane fuel that hit the structure at 500 mph. An airplane IS a bomb when used this way.
You can believe all the conspiracy theories you want, but you're the one that's falling for a bunch of BS if you don't think a jumbo jet can bring down any skycraper that it hits above a certain level above the ground, where only quick and effective fire suppression could prevent the structure from failing. You are giving GW Bush far too much credit for being able to pull off an elaborate hoax when he could barely put together a paragraph without flubbing part of it.
xmlguy wrote:Why is it so hard to understand that a large airplane filled with jet fuel hitting a skycraper at 500 miles per hour has the capability to bring down the building? There was no water being dumped into the fire on those floors. It took 45 minutes to an hour for firefighters merely to get up to the floors where the impact occurred, where they only had time to assess the situation and to try to evacuate survivors. There was no effective fire suppression that could have been done in that scenario.
The hijackers were able to take over the planes. They crashed them into the towers, the Pentagon, and they would've hit the Capitol Building or White house if it wasn't for the passengers who prevented it after they were told by cell phone what had already happened. The Pentagon section that was hit also collapsed, but it just wasn't as dramatic because it wasn't tall. That is a more hardened structure than commercial buildings, and it collapsed too.
Buildings aren't constructed to survive an impact by a large plane. Why do you think there's anything necessary besides the obvious? If the same thing happened to any skyscraper in the world, the same result will occur. It will collapse. They aren't designed for that scenario. They are designed with fire suppression that can only handle localized fires with the contents of the commercial occupants. Commercial occupants have furniture, desks, and files, not thousands of gallons of airplane fuel that hit the structure at 500 mph. An airplane IS a bomb when used this way.
You can believe all the conspiracy theories you want, but you're the one that's falling for a bunch of BS if you don't think a jumbo jet can bring down any skycraper that it hits above a certain level above the ground, where only quick and effective fire suppression could prevent the structure from failing. You are giving GW Bush far too much credit for being able to pull off an elaborate hoax when he could barely put together a paragraph without flubbing part of it.
probably u did not watch the move at all that i have provided.
but ok, why trade center 7 falled exectly the same as 1 and 2?
the was no plane which hit it?
people who was at firsts floors of WTC 1 heared a very loud explosion in the basment and some people were even injured 12 secons befor the first plane actualy hit the building? what could that be if not a boomb?
Where that huge dust came from when the WTCs were falling down?
? (it could came only from that spesial explosive that designed to destroy building)
why half of people that are still on the CIA web site as hijackers of thouse planes which attacked New York are still alive and live in their own contries?
Why video from securety camers about attack on Pentagon was remuved and never shown to the pablic?
Why bodies of people of that plane which attacked Pentagon survied and could be indentefied but the plane did not at all? the was no singel peace of plane at all which survied( probably the real plane just landed some were on the military base and passangers were killed, but the pantagon was attaced by the us military rocket with no war head)
U can see on the video that some small explotions of WTC happens on differnt floors like it was booms during the fall of it?
and i can give 1000 of questions more...
the so many strange things that happend which was not unswered by any official,
it just cannot be just be just coincedents..
p.s. and even if forget all strange unanswered fakts and even if people who know nothing about politics or anything about technical aspecs such as explosives, or military knowladge how that work and etc
any profecinal good pshyhologist can say whatching videos when G. Bush answered question about September 11 , it was clearly visiable that he laired for thouse question he was asked for !!!
p.s. and that is how war can be started, it s the modern way of beggining the war like in medevel ages when one king attacked another country just because of money and power.
now Libia and then who is next?
I know only one sutuation when American govermant had to turn back was when US submarine sunk a new russian submarine Kursk with very hight tech weapon. so thay payed huge amonut of money to the russina goverment in order to cover up this from public. in which situation i am not deffending russian goverment at all because thay were actualy bribered and no amount of money can cover up any crime or and the losses even of singel human life.
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You know that the Death Star was an inside job too??
A virtually indestructible space station, whose only main weakness is a hole bigger than a wamp rat, gets blown up by a singal photon. Not to mention the lack of tiefighters around. Where were the rest?? Off running drills for the Emperor. Sounds fishy to me.
It's just that after it happened the Imperials raided Hoth. They used that as a pretext to get the natural resources of the area. And before that they were occupying Dantooine, and oppressing the Jawas on Tattooine.
Little known fact: George Lucas doesn't care about black people. Also, Michael Moore totally stole the screenplay for Fahrenheit 9/11 from George Lucas.
Read between the lightsabers.
A virtually indestructible space station, whose only main weakness is a hole bigger than a wamp rat, gets blown up by a singal photon. Not to mention the lack of tiefighters around. Where were the rest?? Off running drills for the Emperor. Sounds fishy to me.
It's just that after it happened the Imperials raided Hoth. They used that as a pretext to get the natural resources of the area. And before that they were occupying Dantooine, and oppressing the Jawas on Tattooine.
Little known fact: George Lucas doesn't care about black people. Also, Michael Moore totally stole the screenplay for Fahrenheit 9/11 from George Lucas.
Read between the lightsabers.
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TZM highlights some pretty important and undervalued concepts. However I'm not sure about all this 9/11 nonsense...
Moving Forward has some pretty interesting stuff once it gets talking about economics and resource economy by the way, but I think a lot of people may not get that far into the film..
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It's not good for a building to have a million tons of concrete and steel to fall on and around it. Ever think of that?chilly7 wrote: probably u did not watch the move at all that i have provided.
but ok, why trade center 7 falled exectly the same as 1 and 2?
the was no plane which hit it?
Having a plane hit the building at several hundred miles an hour causes a very loud explosion. Hell, a car travelling 50 miles an hour hittiing a solid barrier also causes a very loud explosion. I've heard that happen.chilly7 wrote: people who was at firsts floors of WTC 1 heared a very loud explosion in the basment and some people were even injured 12 secons befor the first plane actualy hit the building? what could that be if not a boomb?
Do you know, personally, that anyone was injured by anything related to the WTC before the event? Are you just relying on what some video is saying, a video that's filled with lies and distortions?
There are no explosives necessary whatsoever to cause the dust to fall. Concrete becomes dust when it's smashed. It's 100% minerals. Smash a chunk of concrete with a hammer. You get dust. Have you ever seen what's required to actually do an implosion demolition with explosives? It's impossible to hide. All of the support structures have to be cut away in order to place the shaped charges and to run the fuses. The whole inside of the building has to be filled with fuses. That would be impossible to hide in the middle of occupied floors.chilly7 wrote: Where that huge dust came from when the WTCs were falling down?
? (it could came only from that spesial explosive that designed to destroy building)
Once even a single floor of a concrete structure fails, you'll get a huge amount of dust. This happens with all of these kinds of buildings, even with earthquake damage like in Haiti and Japan. Concrete turns to dust and rubble when it collapses. You'll see huge clouds of dust rise from the city when any concrete structure collapses. That's what they do.
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You've obviously never seen a real high explosive. What you see in the movies are not real explosions. The video shows no evidence of high explosives being used. If you knew anything about explosives you would recognize that, but you're just completely ignorant about these things. Have you ever been to a real implosion? I've been to several.chilly7 wrote: U can see on the video that some small explotions of WTC happens on differnt floors like it was booms during the fall of it?
and i can give 1000 of questions more...
Yah, I bet you have millions of questions with no answers. That's usually the case when you don't know anything. It doesn't help that you're completely illiterate too and that you can't write a complete sentence without many errors.
The real question you need to ask is "Why do I want to believe all this crap so much?" Are you Muslim, Arab, or what? There must be a reason why you try so hard to believe any crap you see. You'll find that many Muslims and Arabs completely disagree with you, like the families of those who were killed in the WTC attacks.
well this thread is for people who always think and question them self who thay are, what thay are doing and what is porpouse of their life.X-Trade wrote:TZM highlights some pretty important and undervalued concepts. However I'm not sure about all this 9/11 nonsense...
Moving Forward has some pretty interesting stuff once it gets talking about economics and resource economy by the way, but I think a lot of people may not get that far into the film..
it is not for people with chicken brains who siting on the couch all the day whatching comercials on tv and that is basicly all their life..
p.s. thouse movies actualy very interesting.
i am not agree at 100% of all that was seid in thouse 3 movies, aspesialy i am almost totaly disagree about how thay say about Cristian religion, because to understand religion u have to have more then intallegence in order to understand it, because it is not a materealistic think ...
But what thay are tolking about economic and politic 98 % of it basicly is very interesting and i strongly belive that it is unfortionate sad truth...
and i just have no reason not to belive it and i have no reason to belive that the most of the world is rulled by the kind people who care about people at first and then about other things.
it seems thay don't care about people at all !!!
Just a simple example of oil companies just keep hight prices on oil in addition thay strongly damage our nature when there are many alternative technologies which actualy already exist and can be implemented any time. even if to solve this singel problem and remove thouse oil companies and implement alternative energy like wind, solar, water and etc the prices for all productiong will be lowered much more in addition to reduce polution up to 99%... that looks like a miracle but thouse oil companies cares only about there profit and thay don't care about anybody at all...
why always we wait until it is to late to do something because the oil companies will stop doing their stuff alny until the all oil will be gone or to wear toxic or gas mask on the street will be norm for people.... and that is a near future....
p.s. and basicly i have heared and seen this shoking information from many other sources from Russian and English , German based sources so that is not a singel movie in the world which opens eyes for this shocking things....
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And I can't take seriously somebody who can't spell 'fact' correctly.
Also, the ability to understand a religion does not correspond to intelligence at all.
And I can't take seriously somebody who can't spell 'fact' correctly.
Also, the ability to understand a religion does not correspond to intelligence at all.
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or maybe people who sit at their desk all day long, trying to learn a decent English.chilly7 wrote:well this thread is for people who (...) them self (...) who thay are, what thay are doing and what is porpouse of their life.(...) it is not for people who siting on the couch (...)p.s. thouse movies actualy (...)
i am not agree at 100% of all that was seid in thouse 3 movies, aspesialy i am almost totaly disagree about (...)u have to have more then intallegence (...)
911 mistruths in the video:
40:30 Video of impact on 2nd tower
Where did the audio come from? Sound doesn't travel the same speed as light. Why does the impact sound the same from 10 different shots from 10 different perspective, some from many miles away?
Answer: The audio is 100% fabrication. There is no authentic audio of this nature in the original videos with the sound you hear: that being of a jet, the sound of an explosion, the sound of glass.
With such an OBVIOUS deception by the producers of the video, why would you believe anything that it says? Do you think liars are a reliable source?
The video of the explosion is exactly what you would expect from an airplane loaded with fuel hitting the structure.
High explosives do not look like this AT ALL. Not EVEN CLOSE. High explosives do NOT CAUSE BIG BALLS OF FLAME. Implosion demolitions of buildings where you see big balls of flames have been purposely staged to cause the flame in hollywood fashion for the excitement of onlookers. This kind staging has been done with numerous implosions of old casinos in Las Vegas. The new casino owners pay the demolition company a lot of extra money to make the BIG BALL OF FLAME as a visual effect - but it has NOTHING to do with the demolition of the structure whatsoever. 99% of demolitions have no BIG BALL OF FLAME effect - because most new owners don't want to pay extra for the FX, they just want the building to come down. Normally, you don't see much of the actual high explosive charges if the demolition company has done their job correctly, because that can cause unnecessary damage to nearby structures and injury if the charges are larger than needed to cut the support structures. But a trained eye can see the evidence when the video is examined carefully. The process of setting charges to demolish a building with high explosives takes a lot of time and it's all very obvious. It can't be hidden. Most of the support structures in a building are not exposed, so a lot of the interior of the building needs to be stripped away just to get clear access to them. Usually the interiors are completely gutted first. Any unneccesary material will interfere with the ability of the explosives to shear the columns. It's nothing like what you see in the movies.
Here's a youtube video of an implosion without the FX. Take a close look at 0:58 where the actual high explosives are set off and heard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRaNwPGcQcM
By the time the structure starts to move, all the explosives have already been set off. You just see very small, very fast flashes from the charges. Did you see that in the WTC collapse? No. You only see the collapse, not what caused the collapse.
If the structure is weakend by a long burning fire, like from the burning fuel of an airliner, the steel will start to sag and deform as the metal softens and loses its strength. Once one floor collapses, the kinetic energy of the whole stucture is many times "heavier" than when it's not in motion. The "talking head" reporters have NO CLUE of what they're talking about. They're talking out of their asses. A bunch of reporters who say "it looks like those scenes of buildings purposely dynamited and blown up" is just laughably wrong. You think reporters are demolition experts? They are friggen morons who are paid to read teleprompters and to look good on camera. Uh, yeah, tall buildings that collapse look remarkably similar even when the cause of the collapse is completely different. The fact that the video uses this propaganda technique is ABSOLUTE AND UTTER BULLSHIT THAT IS CLEARLY INTENDED TO DECEIVE WEAK MINDED FOOLS. If you believe that s**t, you've got to be a complete moron, and that's the only fact that it demonstrates. Having a bunch of people saying they heard an explosion doesn't in any way prove that explosives were used. Dropping a one ton block of concrete from 1500 feet will sound like an explosion to anyone nearby, even though there's no explosives involved whatsoever. Kinetic energy and the collapse of a large building will seem to be an explosion to many people - it could naturally have many loud booms as those tons of concrete and steel start falling with the acceleration of gravity.
Once the jets hit the structure, the results were INEVITABLE, UNAVOIDABLE, and IMPOSSIBLE to stop. The only way to put out that jet fuel would be with suppressive foam, and there was NO WAY to get foam to those floors in time to prevent the collapse. Commercial buildings only have water sprinkler systems which not only don't work to put down fuel fires, the water makes the flames worse. And that's if the water system works, since they aren't designed to survive a major plane impact.
My life has a porpoise:
It's to laugh at stupid conspiracy believers. And thanks for all the fish.
40:30 Video of impact on 2nd tower
Where did the audio come from? Sound doesn't travel the same speed as light. Why does the impact sound the same from 10 different shots from 10 different perspective, some from many miles away?
Answer: The audio is 100% fabrication. There is no authentic audio of this nature in the original videos with the sound you hear: that being of a jet, the sound of an explosion, the sound of glass.
With such an OBVIOUS deception by the producers of the video, why would you believe anything that it says? Do you think liars are a reliable source?
The video of the explosion is exactly what you would expect from an airplane loaded with fuel hitting the structure.
High explosives do not look like this AT ALL. Not EVEN CLOSE. High explosives do NOT CAUSE BIG BALLS OF FLAME. Implosion demolitions of buildings where you see big balls of flames have been purposely staged to cause the flame in hollywood fashion for the excitement of onlookers. This kind staging has been done with numerous implosions of old casinos in Las Vegas. The new casino owners pay the demolition company a lot of extra money to make the BIG BALL OF FLAME as a visual effect - but it has NOTHING to do with the demolition of the structure whatsoever. 99% of demolitions have no BIG BALL OF FLAME effect - because most new owners don't want to pay extra for the FX, they just want the building to come down. Normally, you don't see much of the actual high explosive charges if the demolition company has done their job correctly, because that can cause unnecessary damage to nearby structures and injury if the charges are larger than needed to cut the support structures. But a trained eye can see the evidence when the video is examined carefully. The process of setting charges to demolish a building with high explosives takes a lot of time and it's all very obvious. It can't be hidden. Most of the support structures in a building are not exposed, so a lot of the interior of the building needs to be stripped away just to get clear access to them. Usually the interiors are completely gutted first. Any unneccesary material will interfere with the ability of the explosives to shear the columns. It's nothing like what you see in the movies.
Here's a youtube video of an implosion without the FX. Take a close look at 0:58 where the actual high explosives are set off and heard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRaNwPGcQcM
By the time the structure starts to move, all the explosives have already been set off. You just see very small, very fast flashes from the charges. Did you see that in the WTC collapse? No. You only see the collapse, not what caused the collapse.
If the structure is weakend by a long burning fire, like from the burning fuel of an airliner, the steel will start to sag and deform as the metal softens and loses its strength. Once one floor collapses, the kinetic energy of the whole stucture is many times "heavier" than when it's not in motion. The "talking head" reporters have NO CLUE of what they're talking about. They're talking out of their asses. A bunch of reporters who say "it looks like those scenes of buildings purposely dynamited and blown up" is just laughably wrong. You think reporters are demolition experts? They are friggen morons who are paid to read teleprompters and to look good on camera. Uh, yeah, tall buildings that collapse look remarkably similar even when the cause of the collapse is completely different. The fact that the video uses this propaganda technique is ABSOLUTE AND UTTER BULLSHIT THAT IS CLEARLY INTENDED TO DECEIVE WEAK MINDED FOOLS. If you believe that s**t, you've got to be a complete moron, and that's the only fact that it demonstrates. Having a bunch of people saying they heard an explosion doesn't in any way prove that explosives were used. Dropping a one ton block of concrete from 1500 feet will sound like an explosion to anyone nearby, even though there's no explosives involved whatsoever. Kinetic energy and the collapse of a large building will seem to be an explosion to many people - it could naturally have many loud booms as those tons of concrete and steel start falling with the acceleration of gravity.
Once the jets hit the structure, the results were INEVITABLE, UNAVOIDABLE, and IMPOSSIBLE to stop. The only way to put out that jet fuel would be with suppressive foam, and there was NO WAY to get foam to those floors in time to prevent the collapse. Commercial buildings only have water sprinkler systems which not only don't work to put down fuel fires, the water makes the flames worse. And that's if the water system works, since they aren't designed to survive a major plane impact.
My life has a porpoise:
It's to laugh at stupid conspiracy believers. And thanks for all the fish.
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