How much better is the Sequencer?
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How much better is the Sequencer?
Compared to the trinity and triton?
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try and see for yourself?
even if someone told you that it is 58.6% better, it doesnt mean it is better to you (just look at the DAW wars where everyone claims his sequencer is by far the best)
i personally have not used a Triton or Trinity (only hardware sequencer besides my M3 i know is the QY-70), but based on the differences between the M3 sequencer of OS version 1.x, which is propably comparable to the Triton´s and Oasys´s sequencer and the new piano roll- and track view which were introduced in version 2 i personally think it is like night and day (to me)
but people who know their Triton´s and Oasys´s sequencers inside out will propably disagree
even if someone told you that it is 58.6% better, it doesnt mean it is better to you (just look at the DAW wars where everyone claims his sequencer is by far the best)
i personally have not used a Triton or Trinity (only hardware sequencer besides my M3 i know is the QY-70), but based on the differences between the M3 sequencer of OS version 1.x, which is propably comparable to the Triton´s and Oasys´s sequencer and the new piano roll- and track view which were introduced in version 2 i personally think it is like night and day (to me)
but people who know their Triton´s and Oasys´s sequencers inside out will propably disagree
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The last sequencer i used on a machine was the Korg 01W and IX300
so i dont really know anything about it, many people think i am somekind
of Guru but many dont know that i know NOTHING besides being in
PROGRAM/COMBI/SAMPLING modes nor i know anything about it using it live or
connecting to other devices. Just by looking at the Sequencer and sometimes
doing Drum Patterns i think its way better then the Triton/Trinity sequencer,
it is newer, it has a Piano Roll Editor and many other functions.
so i dont really know anything about it, many people think i am somekind
of Guru but many dont know that i know NOTHING besides being in
PROGRAM/COMBI/SAMPLING modes nor i know anything about it using it live or
connecting to other devices. Just by looking at the Sequencer and sometimes
doing Drum Patterns i think its way better then the Triton/Trinity sequencer,
it is newer, it has a Piano Roll Editor and many other functions.
http://www.basaristudios.com
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- Gargamel314
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it's basically the Trinity's and Triton's sequencer, in living color, with some new features.
- For starters, the Sequencer resolution has been increased from 192 ppq to 480 ppq.
- Event Editing now supports system exclusive events. You can record sysex events in realtime, or insert them. These events show up in a very user-friendly format, so you can see EXACTLY what it is. It can be anything from a change in effect type or level, a tone adjust setting, KARMA event, X-Y controller events, pretty much anything that you can do in realtime with the M3. For example, in one event, I can reassign the IFX 1 bus to change the effect from a Phaser effect to a L/C/R Delay effect. In the next event I can route channel 5 to IFX1. In the next sysex event I can assign IFX1 to set the left channel delay time to 500 ms... etc.
- There is now separate EQ for each sequencer track.
- Track View - looks a lot like a DAW interface. you see each track in a window. you can select measures through the touch-view interface, and even move them around with your finger. Within each track, there's a mini piano-roll of the data contained in each track so you can see the note events in each track.
- Piano-roll-view - basically the same as what would be in a DAW. you can select each note event with your finger or a stylus (stylus makes it much easier), lengthen/shorten the note, move the note around, erase, or create new data. you can also draw in controller events in a similar fashion.
- There's a Modify Velocity command, which is greatly useful in changing dynamic levels in your music.
- RPPR and KARMA are infused into the sequencer, as well as hundreds of really great drum patterns.
- Tone Adjust is accessible also from the Sequencer, so you can even record patch edits in real-time. These are things like pitch stretching, filter c/o changes, filter & amp envelope changes, and LFO changes.
- Velocity metering - note velocities show up on each track in program view and mixer view just like a VU meter, helps a lot in seeing what channels are playing at any given time.
- You can use the Touch view interface to drag the knobs and sliders on the screen to change volume and pan settings. also recordable in real time.
For the most part, the M3's sequencer is just a huge overall improvement in the control you have over the instrument in sequence mode. you can do anything in sequencer mode that you can in program or combi mode.
if you've never used a Triton/Trinity sequencer before, it's not too hard to learn, and very logical. there a few limitations like not being able to move a selection smaller than 1 measure of events, but if you are a proficient piano player, it's just a matter of re-recording your playing. From what i've heard, yamaha's sequencer is more powerful than Korg's. But I've actually started to prefer it to software DAW's because of the ability to use KARMA, RPPR, and Sysex events more easily.
That pretty much covers it.
This video is probably the most informative about the M3 and it's new features. All of this stuff above is covered in it. Sound quality is horrible but you'll have to deal with it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwmv9tDhzjY
- For starters, the Sequencer resolution has been increased from 192 ppq to 480 ppq.
- Event Editing now supports system exclusive events. You can record sysex events in realtime, or insert them. These events show up in a very user-friendly format, so you can see EXACTLY what it is. It can be anything from a change in effect type or level, a tone adjust setting, KARMA event, X-Y controller events, pretty much anything that you can do in realtime with the M3. For example, in one event, I can reassign the IFX 1 bus to change the effect from a Phaser effect to a L/C/R Delay effect. In the next event I can route channel 5 to IFX1. In the next sysex event I can assign IFX1 to set the left channel delay time to 500 ms... etc.
- There is now separate EQ for each sequencer track.
- Track View - looks a lot like a DAW interface. you see each track in a window. you can select measures through the touch-view interface, and even move them around with your finger. Within each track, there's a mini piano-roll of the data contained in each track so you can see the note events in each track.
- Piano-roll-view - basically the same as what would be in a DAW. you can select each note event with your finger or a stylus (stylus makes it much easier), lengthen/shorten the note, move the note around, erase, or create new data. you can also draw in controller events in a similar fashion.
- There's a Modify Velocity command, which is greatly useful in changing dynamic levels in your music.
- RPPR and KARMA are infused into the sequencer, as well as hundreds of really great drum patterns.
- Tone Adjust is accessible also from the Sequencer, so you can even record patch edits in real-time. These are things like pitch stretching, filter c/o changes, filter & amp envelope changes, and LFO changes.
- Velocity metering - note velocities show up on each track in program view and mixer view just like a VU meter, helps a lot in seeing what channels are playing at any given time.
- You can use the Touch view interface to drag the knobs and sliders on the screen to change volume and pan settings. also recordable in real time.
For the most part, the M3's sequencer is just a huge overall improvement in the control you have over the instrument in sequence mode. you can do anything in sequencer mode that you can in program or combi mode.
if you've never used a Triton/Trinity sequencer before, it's not too hard to learn, and very logical. there a few limitations like not being able to move a selection smaller than 1 measure of events, but if you are a proficient piano player, it's just a matter of re-recording your playing. From what i've heard, yamaha's sequencer is more powerful than Korg's. But I've actually started to prefer it to software DAW's because of the ability to use KARMA, RPPR, and Sysex events more easily.
That pretty much covers it.
This video is probably the most informative about the M3 and it's new features. All of this stuff above is covered in it. Sound quality is horrible but you'll have to deal with it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwmv9tDhzjY
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- Gargamel314
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also:
M3 Sequencer Tutorial from Korg
Part1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0Sn9AUDuc8
Part2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3xhB067NBs
M3 Sequencer Tutorial from Korg
Part1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0Sn9AUDuc8
Part2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3xhB067NBs
Korg Kronos-61, Nautilus-61, 01/Wfd, SONAR Pro