Korg Combi/Prog bank order format

[Fatalmasterpiece]

Hello,

I have owned both a Korg TR and Trinity and while I love the sound and utility of Korg keyboards, one thing frustrates me greatly. The combinations and programs in both these (and many other Korgs I'm sure) are listed in banks A, B, C and D but at first there seemed to be no logical order or categorization to how they were listed (A000 String combi, A001 Split, A002 Vocal,
A003 Piano etc). I realized by scrolling through pages instead of individually the banks are ordered in by page (A008 another String, A009 Another Split, A010 More Vocals, A011 more Piano etc). So to go through all the Piano combinations for example one would have to first select A003 Piano and then press Page up for the next Piano type patch, A011, A019, A027 etc.

If I'm correct, I'm not sure why Korg chose this method for sorting their combinations and programs but it's fairly frustrating to use.

Does anyone else have any insight or experience with how the banks are ordered in Korg products such as the TR or Trinity?

Thanks.

[michelkeijzers]

I don't have the Trinity or TR, but I know from the X5 and I think N264 too, that like 00, 10, 20 etc piano's were located, 01, 11, 21 etc another type. So you could use the 10 hold button to quickly move between them.

On the Kronos, it's even completely different, even between the old and new Kronos. In the old Kronos the first bank was all kind of different sounds, like a 'demo' bank.

Also, and I don't know from which model, most people use categories (and sub categories) to select their sound, so the actual physical location is not that important.

If you are frustrated by the current locations, you can always use PCG Tools to move programs (with keeping the combis intact).

[Fatalmasterpiece]

Thanks for the reply It's good to know it works the same in several other Korg models.

The Kronos sounds interesting, will have to try one out sometime.

Catagories can certainly work in the studio, or even manualing scrolling through each patch to get the sounds you want. For live play, I found I needed to be able to quickly change sounds so I completely rewrote patches A000-A010 with my own sounds for different songs.

That is a good idea. As for the Trinity, it doesn't even have a USB port to connect it to a computer for the PCG tools. Could probably work on the TR though!

[michelkeijzers]

Thanks for the reply It's good to know it works the same in several other Korg models.

The Kronos sounds interesting, will have to try one out sometime.

Catagories can certainly work in the studio, or even manualing scrolling through each patch to get the sounds you want. For live play, I found I needed to be able to quickly change sounds so I completely rewrote patches A000-A010 with my own sounds for different songs.

That is a good idea. As for the Trinity, it doesn't even have a USB port to connect it to a computer for the PCG tools. Could probably work on the TR though!

The set list in the Kronos is really nice to use. One of the most used features probably.

I use the categories mostly when I'm creating a combi to 'audition' sounds. When I found it I copy it to a combi. For live play, all combis should be already arranged.

The Trinity has a SD/CF card I guess? Otherwise a MIDI application should be used (like MIDI-OX) to transfer sysex files.

Note that PCG Tools does NOT change songs.

Also, what might help is that PCG Tools has a function to sort programs/combis based on name (or title/author), and you can easily search for (part of) names of a program or combi. Another possibility is that you can make lists and use it in e.g. Excel to find what you are looking for.