80's Pop/Rock set Vintage keys

aron · Post by **aron** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:07 am

FWIW, I thought the Oberheim programs sounded very realistic (like an Oberheim would when trying to recreate those sounds) - except for the obvious effect additions to the sound. Whether they sounded like the recordings is another matter. I agree that the Motif programs sounded closer to the recordings than the Oberheim ones. I was amazed at how close the Motif programs sounded - certainly good enough for live.

Dniss · Post by **Dniss** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:09 am

Sharp wrote:
Dniss wrote:I find it surprising that no one ever came out with a vintage keys collection.

I'm sure it would have a huge success.
There's are hundreds of AKAI disks that cover all manner of vintage keyboard you can buy for your KRONOS.

I ought to check that out! If you have suggestion where to get, don't hesitate.

Sharp wrote:Are you really looking for a Vintage Keys library, or a library that contains Famous classic sounds?

Regards
Sharp.

Famous classic sounds!

BrickPilot · Post by **BrickPilot** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:54 am

Dniss wrote:
Sharp wrote:Are you really looking for a Vintage Keys library, or a library that contains Famous classic sounds?
Famous classic sounds!

+1 ... As a band that does tons of covers, I'd definitely buy that. No time to program them.

Dniss · Post by **Dniss** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:01 am

Me too, definitly.

Sold in sets.

Classic Rock 1 & 2: Featuring great classic lead sounds like Lucky Man, Cinema Show, Sledgehammer, Pink Floyd, etc...

Techno 1: JMJ, Vangelis, Depeche mode, etc...

I'd be willing to pay 75$ a pop, if convincing samples. Seriously, I'd buy all of them! Many different popular format would be even better.

PinkFloydDudi · Post by **PinkFloydDudi** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:28 pm

Dniss wrote:Me too, definitly.

Sold in sets.

Classic Rock 1 & 2: Featuring great classic lead sounds like Lucky Man, Cinema Show, Sledgehammer, Pink Floyd, etc...

Techno 1: JMJ, Vangelis, Depeche mode, etc...

I'd be willing to pay 75$ a pop, if convincing samples. Seriously, I'd buy all of them! Many different popular format would be even better.

Hmmm...there is some motivation! Sounds like these sample sets could fetch quite a bit of $!

Sharp wrote:Here's a great TV & Game sample library. Tons of great classic sounds in here.

http://refxcache.com/nexus/exp_TV_Movie_Game.mp3

It's one of the expansion packs for ReFx Nexus 2.
http://refx.com

Regards
Sharp.

Ha, now those sounded pretty great!

Morten'J · Post by **Morten'J** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:22 pm

with AL1,Polysix,MS20,MOD7,HD1 it can't be bad for 80's pop.
In Frankfurt Musicmesse one played A-ha Take on me with a MOD7 sound.
Saw Tears for fears with Oasys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMjzxHzZnnI

Karo is coming with some like Miillenium pop that use MS20 and Polysix.

BrickPilot · Post by **BrickPilot** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 7:57 pm

Bands that should be examined for a classic rock collection or series:

Journey, Rush, Yes, Foreigner, Styx, Genesis, Loverboy, Blondie, Elton John, Billy Idol, Boston, Stevie Wonder, Van Halen, The Who, Supertramp, Steve Winwood, Pink Floyd, Queen, Billy Joel, The Moody Blues, Led Zeppelin, The Legion of Rock Stars, David Bowie, Bob Marley, The Cars, Peter Gabriel, The Police.

Certainly not a comprehensive list, but a great start, IMO.

Dniss · Post by **Dniss** » Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:18 pm

That sure would make a good starting list!

PinkFloydDudi · Post by **PinkFloydDudi** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:56 pm

Dniss wrote:That sure would make a good starting list!

Soooo...who wants to get started? lol.

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 5:25 pm

Is it the intention to recreate the sounds of all these mentioned artists as good as possible?

Question is: why? I have to admit I seldom make sounds from scratch and a lot of sounds I use even are not that similar to the original, some are, most are not. And I don't care, so do most listeners. It's much more fun (for myself) to use different sounds, which I like more and play those for songs.

However, I understand a lot of people want to come close to the original (probably because some venues want to have songs covered as accurate as possible). For those such libraries would be ideal.

But I'm glad I have the freedom to play what I want, with the sounds I select. There are songs I even don't play the same notes every time (actually more often than not). That's real LIVE playing.

BrickPilot · Post by **BrickPilot** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:05 pm

michelkeijzers wrote:Is it the intention to recreate the sounds of all these mentioned artists as good as possible?

Question is: why?

Yes. Some sounds are very signature... the sound itself can evoke memories / emotion / etc. in the listener (or player). As performers, we have the freedom to choose whatever lick, sound, or style we want, to move the audience in the direction we desire.

I want the "as-close-to-original-recording" sounds to be available, when I feel so moved to use them.

PinkFloydDudi · Post by **PinkFloydDudi** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 6:28 pm

BrickPilot wrote:
michelkeijzers wrote:Is it the intention to recreate the sounds of all these mentioned artists as good as possible?

Question is: why?
Yes. Some sounds are very signature... the sound itself can evoke memories / emotion / etc. in the listener (or player). As performers, we have the freedom to choose whatever lick, sound, or style we want, to move the audience in the direction we desire.

I want the "as-close-to-original-recording" sounds to be available, when I feel so moved to use them.

+1

I at least want the option to have something that replicates the original.

To be honest, when I hear a cover band play a song and the keyboard player uses sounds that aren't very close to the original - it immediately gives me a bad impression of the keyboard player.

If you are playing this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7p2NJfGKxk
(Journey, Separate Ways)

You had better have that sound nailed (IMO).

With that being said, if someone has a completely different sound, that might be ok, because then it is obvious that you are doing something on your own. May be good, may be bad, but at least I would understand.

People that have half-ass sounds just come across to me as bad keyboard players for a cover band.

BillW · Post by **BillW** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:15 pm

PinkFloydDudi wrote:
BrickPilot wrote:
michelkeijzers wrote:Is it the intention to recreate the sounds of all these mentioned artists as good as possible?

Question is: why?
Yes. Some sounds are very signature... the sound itself can evoke memories / emotion / etc. in the listener (or player). As performers, we have the freedom to choose whatever lick, sound, or style we want, to move the audience in the direction we desire.

I want the "as-close-to-original-recording" sounds to be available, when I feel so moved to use them.
To be honest, when I hear a cover band play a song and the keyboard player uses sounds that aren't very close to the original - it immediately gives me a bad impression of the keyboard player.

+1 For me, it's all about sounding like the record if you're playing covers.

bsbsantos · Post by **bsbsantos** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:39 pm

BillW wrote:
PinkFloydDudi wrote:
BrickPilot wrote: Yes. Some sounds are very signature... the sound itself can evoke memories / emotion / etc. in the listener (or player). As performers, we have the freedom to choose whatever lick, sound, or style we want, to move the audience in the direction we desire.

I want the "as-close-to-original-recording" sounds to be available, when I feel so moved to use them.
To be honest, when I hear a cover band play a song and the keyboard player uses sounds that aren't very close to the original - it immediately gives me a bad impression of the keyboard player.
+1 For me, it's all about sounding like the record if you're playing covers.

+1

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:33 pm

BillW wrote:
PinkFloydDudi wrote:
BrickPilot wrote: Yes. Some sounds are very signature... the sound itself can evoke memories / emotion / etc. in the listener (or player). As performers, we have the freedom to choose whatever lick, sound, or style we want, to move the audience in the direction we desire.

I want the "as-close-to-original-recording" sounds to be available, when I feel so moved to use them.
To be honest, when I hear a cover band play a song and the keyboard player uses sounds that aren't very close to the original - it immediately gives me a bad impression of the keyboard player.
+1 For me, it's all about sounding like the record if you're playing covers.

Guess my view is different than ... on the other hand ... if it really sounds like the original then it's also a very good thing. And I know you guys are good

(the last thing I say is that I say one is better than the other ... it's just different).