The lack of aftertouch and physical controls on the Nautilus certainly is disappointing. Perhaps this Viscount Physis controller/piano is the perfect compliment to the Nautilus 61, since it has both and a lot more: the Physis
Piano K4 EX
https://www.viscountinstruments.com/ins ... o-k4-ex-2/
Perfect controller to use with Nautilus 61?
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aellison62
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I don;t think the Nautilus would be able to receive aftertouch MIDI data?
I know the Nautilus keybed is not aftertouch capable but does it have aftertouch capability at all ?? That Physis is nice but a little on the expensive side if you just want a controller. You wouldn't need all the extra sounds the Physis brings with it. But, not many 88 key controllers have aftertouch either. I just got my 73 key Nautilus. I am used to aftertouch on my other two gigging boards. I am going to wait a while and see if I miss it on the Nautilus. If I think about it, I really only use aftertouch on a very select few instances during my usual playing/gigging. The additional controls can be added with a very inexpensive Korg nanokontrol unit plugged into the usb port and you can have it set right there on upper left side of panel. 8 sliders, 8 encoders, transport controls and a couple extra buttons, all assignable
I know the Nautilus keybed is not aftertouch capable but does it have aftertouch capability at all ?? That Physis is nice but a little on the expensive side if you just want a controller. You wouldn't need all the extra sounds the Physis brings with it. But, not many 88 key controllers have aftertouch either. I just got my 73 key Nautilus. I am used to aftertouch on my other two gigging boards. I am going to wait a while and see if I miss it on the Nautilus. If I think about it, I really only use aftertouch on a very select few instances during my usual playing/gigging. The additional controls can be added with a very inexpensive Korg nanokontrol unit plugged into the usb port and you can have it set right there on upper left side of panel. 8 sliders, 8 encoders, transport controls and a couple extra buttons, all assignable
Current gear: Kurzweil Forte 7, Kurzweil PC361, Mojo 61, Korg Kronos X 61, Roland RD-88, Korg Nautilus 73
Maybe you wouldn’t need the extra sounds on the Physis piano, but I would like all 5 modeling engines and the extra sampled sounds, so I don’t see it as just a controller. It is a less expensive alternative to the new Roland FP-90X modeling piano.aellison62 wrote:I don;t think the Nautilus would be able to receive aftertouch MIDI data?
I know the Nautilus keybed is not aftertouch capable but does it have aftertouch capability at all ?? That Physis is nice but a little on the expensive side if you just want a controller. You wouldn't need all the extra sounds the Physis brings with it.
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I am using the Novation Launchpad Pro 3 and it is amazing, with the Nautilus. First, it plugs into the Nautilus' usb in, powers the launchpad, syncs clocks and everything. Sitting pretty on my 73 key as well! It syncs perfectly with the song mode, so you can really program each note, if you don't quite have the chops, and even edit, by scrolling on the Nautilus' timeline*. Much better then the sequence editing directly in the Nautilus.
The Launchpad's inbuilt sequencer, 'Mutation', (which adds harmonic variety), velocity and probability etc... and even it's polyrhythmic nature*, in regards to sequence timing, can be recorded, almost indefinitely, into song mode. I basically record into the launchpad, work out the arrangements, (up to 4 parts), then when i am done, record that midi into the Nautilus, in song mode. Then onto the next 4 tracks etc, to build up the song.
I even use one of the launchpad's tracks for the drums, as the 'mpc' style layout actually also uses octave switching, so you can trigger any drum sample within the multisample drum set, and even utilize the launchpad's pre mentioned sequencer features, (vel. and prob. mutate, etc), to really work out some sharp rhythmic variations.
The launchpad also has 8 custom midi layouts, in which i used the first 4, as two sets of 8 volume controls, and two sets of pans, for all mixer channels. I still have to get my head around the deeper working's, of the Nautilus, but you can definitely set up full instrument controls.
The Launchpad has a chord builder, and works in scales, so you can jam out, jumping from track to track, using your preset scales, even quickly using the same sequences in different midi channels. And finally, it is poly AT, which the Nautilus does respond to, quite nicely.
* The Song mode sync works so well, that even when using unusual step numbers, between sequencers, to create polyrhythms, you can still scroll through them, with the Nautilus timeline, provided their patterns are properly linked, within the launchpad. Quick example, in the launchpad's first sequence, it plays two bars and repeats, but in sequencer 2, it plays 4 bars, so sequence 1 will play twice as often as two. Chain these up, to even more awkward numbers, using the launchpad's patterns, and time divisions, and it still track properly when being scrolled through by the Nautilus' song mode.
The Launchpad's inbuilt sequencer, 'Mutation', (which adds harmonic variety), velocity and probability etc... and even it's polyrhythmic nature*, in regards to sequence timing, can be recorded, almost indefinitely, into song mode. I basically record into the launchpad, work out the arrangements, (up to 4 parts), then when i am done, record that midi into the Nautilus, in song mode. Then onto the next 4 tracks etc, to build up the song.
I even use one of the launchpad's tracks for the drums, as the 'mpc' style layout actually also uses octave switching, so you can trigger any drum sample within the multisample drum set, and even utilize the launchpad's pre mentioned sequencer features, (vel. and prob. mutate, etc), to really work out some sharp rhythmic variations.
The launchpad also has 8 custom midi layouts, in which i used the first 4, as two sets of 8 volume controls, and two sets of pans, for all mixer channels. I still have to get my head around the deeper working's, of the Nautilus, but you can definitely set up full instrument controls.
The Launchpad has a chord builder, and works in scales, so you can jam out, jumping from track to track, using your preset scales, even quickly using the same sequences in different midi channels. And finally, it is poly AT, which the Nautilus does respond to, quite nicely.
* The Song mode sync works so well, that even when using unusual step numbers, between sequencers, to create polyrhythms, you can still scroll through them, with the Nautilus timeline, provided their patterns are properly linked, within the launchpad. Quick example, in the launchpad's first sequence, it plays two bars and repeats, but in sequencer 2, it plays 4 bars, so sequence 1 will play twice as often as two. Chain these up, to even more awkward numbers, using the launchpad's patterns, and time divisions, and it still track properly when being scrolled through by the Nautilus' song mode.
"The Nautilus supports aftertouch, including polyphonic aftertouch, received from external sources. The Nautilus Keybeds themselves are not aftertouch-capable."
Great, but for those of use at the bottom of the learning curve ( me ) who need to hook up an assortment of midi cables and learn to enable communication from one device to the other and related CC codes ( I think they are)... this is a massive underatking. Would be nice if Nautilus had aftertouch built in, but it doesn't... I got one anyway.
Great, but for those of use at the bottom of the learning curve ( me ) who need to hook up an assortment of midi cables and learn to enable communication from one device to the other and related CC codes ( I think they are)... this is a massive underatking. Would be nice if Nautilus had aftertouch built in, but it doesn't... I got one anyway.
Nanocontrol 2
nanocontrol 2 does anyone know the settings for nautilus in combi mode for control e.g. volume etc?
Sequencer mod volume control, start-stop sequencer, scene mod - switching between scenes?
Sequencer mod volume control, start-stop sequencer, scene mod - switching between scenes?
Re: Nanocontrol 2
I'd be particularly interested in scene switching and volume control in combi mode using nanokontrol.RastoN wrote:nanocontrol 2 does anyone know the settings for nautilus in combi mode for control e.g. volume etc?
Sequencer mod volume control, start-stop sequencer, scene mod - switching between scenes?
The MIDI Implementation document for the Kronos may have some useful information, since there are many similarities shared with the Nautilus:
https://www.korg.com/us/support/downloa ... /424/4593/
Also, connecting the Nautilus to a PC and using something like MIDI-Ox to look at the MIDI messages coming from the Nautilus, may give some useful clues to the MIDI CC# messages being used by each of the Nautilus controls.
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https://www.korg.com/us/support/downloa ... /424/4593/
Also, connecting the Nautilus to a PC and using something like MIDI-Ox to look at the MIDI messages coming from the Nautilus, may give some useful clues to the MIDI CC# messages being used by each of the Nautilus controls.
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playing the keyboard: at least one hand
knobs: there's 8 of them, you have 5 fingers left over and I doubt you'll turn 2 knobs at once with 5 fingers.
Uh. Lack of physical controls? I think you'd need extra appendages to physically exhaust the given controls that you already have. Which MIDI controllers are you currently aware of that allow you to edit multiple parameters while also still playing the keyboard? Even a ROLI seaboard (which does work with KRONOS/Nautilus due to MPE-support) limits the number of simultaneously affectable parameters to like, 3 (or 6, depending on how you want to look at it, but nobody is actually gonna engage 6 axes of control, at least not on one of those)
Your gripe seems more to be with I/O peripherals in general. There's also the nautilus controller software, which allows you to even outdo an octopus with all his appendages ... by controlling via the DAW itself..
how else did you expect KORG to shave $2000 off a Kronos price tag?
knobs: there's 8 of them, you have 5 fingers left over and I doubt you'll turn 2 knobs at once with 5 fingers.
Uh. Lack of physical controls? I think you'd need extra appendages to physically exhaust the given controls that you already have. Which MIDI controllers are you currently aware of that allow you to edit multiple parameters while also still playing the keyboard? Even a ROLI seaboard (which does work with KRONOS/Nautilus due to MPE-support) limits the number of simultaneously affectable parameters to like, 3 (or 6, depending on how you want to look at it, but nobody is actually gonna engage 6 axes of control, at least not on one of those)
Your gripe seems more to be with I/O peripherals in general. There's also the nautilus controller software, which allows you to even outdo an octopus with all his appendages ... by controlling via the DAW itself..
how else did you expect KORG to shave $2000 off a Kronos price tag?