Audio Track Event Edit Help

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Nightowl3272
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Audio Track Event Edit Help

Post by Nightowl3272 »

Long time Triton user here.

I've imported a 1-bar percussion loop named SaySoPerc into Audio Track 01, measure 01 on the Kronos.
Then, using the Repeat Measure edit, I copied the 1-bar loop throughout the length of the entire song. It plays fine.

However, I need the loop to stop on beat 3 every 8th bar. So I go into Audio Event Edit and I see Region 0050: SaySoPerc repeating on every measure as expected:
Measure 008 Beat Tick 01.000 through Measure 008 Beat Tick 04.479.

But when I change the End of measure 08 from Beat Tick 04.479 to 03.000, the End Beat Tick value of every region in that track changes to that same value. So instead of only measure 008 stopping at 03.000, they all stop at 03.000.
Although the change takes effect immediately, this isn't reflected in all the measures visually until I press Done and re-enter Event Edit.

I swear guys, I searched the forum, the manual and YouTube up and down, but somehow, I've missed some fundamental part of how Audio Tracks function in the sequencer.

Why does editing the end of a region in one measure change all of the region copies' end values in other measures? Or am I supposed to create another region with the same .WAV file?
Track 7
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Post by Track 7 »

I've never done what you are describing in an audio track, but in a MIDI track I think you would want to use Copy Measure instead of Repeat Measure. As I recall, Repeat replays the same data, over and over, wherever you specify and as many times as you specify. Thus any change to one region will be interpreted as a change to the repeated data in all regions, resulting in what you are describing.

If you use Copy Data instead, you should be able to edit one measure without affecting the others, since you now have multiple copies of the original data rather than merely a replay of one section of data. At least this is my experience with MIDI tracks. Again, I have not tried this with audio tracks.
Nightowl3272
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Post by Nightowl3272 »

Track 7 wrote: in a MIDI track I think you would want to use Copy Measure instead of Repeat Measure. As I recall, Repeat replays the same data, over and over, wherever you specify and as many times as you specify. Thus any change to one region will be interpreted as a change to the repeated data in all regions, resulting in what you are describing.

If you use Copy Data instead, you should be able to edit one measure without affecting the others, since you now have multiple copies of the original data rather than merely a replay of one section of data. At least this is my experience with MIDI tracks. Again, I have not tried this with audio tracks.
Thanks for the reply Track 7. Actually the Repeat function doesn’t work like that, it still copies the data just like the Copy function, the difference is that the Repeat function moves any data over in place of the repeated data, where Copy just replaces any data in favor of the new data. But still, I tried as you suggested and used the Copy function, but it didn’t work unfortunately.
Thanks again for the reply and the suggestion.
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Post by kronoSphere »

The simplest way is to make before a copy of your sample and rename it (exemple : SaySoperc1 and SaySoperc2)and then put the second one where you want and adjust it !

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Post by Track 7 »

kronoSphere wrote:The simplest way is to make before a copy of your sample and rename it (exemple : SaySoperc1 and SaySoperc2)and then put the second one where you want and adjust it !

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Good idea! Or I was thinking maybe you could program an Automation Only event to mute the track on the beats where you want the pattern to stop.
Nightowl3272
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Post by Nightowl3272 »

kronoSphere wrote:The simplest way is to make before a copy of your sample and rename it (exemple : SaySoperc1 and SaySoperc2)and then put the second one where you want and adjust it !

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Yes, that's what I ended up doing. It just seems strange and inefficient that we have the option of editing the length of each region copy independently (like a clip in a DAW) but then changing one field changes all of them. It doesn't seem to operate the way the developers intended.

But yes, the workaround is effective. Thanks for the reply.
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