New Korg NAUTILUS !!

leonh · Post by **leonh** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:20 am

Yes plenty of Kronos owners with money to burn and feed up waiting for new Kronos will get Nautilus just because they want something familiar especially if you are professional musician so based on that Korg did smart move.

Liviou2004 · Post by **Liviou2004** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:41 am

leonh wrote:Yes plenty of Kronos owners with money to burn and feed up waiting for new Kronos will get Nautilus just because they want something familiar especially if you are professional musician so based on that Korg did smart move.

To be honnest, it would be a mystery for me, especially concerning professionnal musicians, as there is nothing new is this machine. If it's just a matter of new sounds, they can be played on the Kronos. So why buying this one ? If a professional musician needs a second Kronos-like synth, I guess he would buy a second Kronos.

But, a good reason for them to buy a Nautilus, is on stage and tour, as a matter of weight : a Kronos in the studio, a Nautilus on stage. (Many musicians do the same with Montage/Modx).

Nautilus 73 : 14.6 kg / 32.19 lbs.
Kronos 2 73 : 21,1 kg / 46.52 lbs

But the difference is far less significative between the two 88 notes : just one kg (2.2 lbs).

entonio · Post by **entonio** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:02 am

One thing I haven't seen discussed anywhere is that the Nautilus 73 has a sane, C1-C7 range, instead of the usual (recently) E1-E7 abomination. But that may make it not that interchangeable with the Kronos 73.

jimknopf · Post by **jimknopf** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:19 am

entonio wrote:One thing I haven't seen discussed anywhere is that the Nautilus 73 has a sane, C1-C7 range, instead of the usual (recently) E1-E7 abomination. But that may make it not that interchangeable with the Kronos 73.

There's nothing sane at all with C1-C7, for players accustomed to play a Rhodes, and playing in bands with guitars and bass. I prefer E1-E7 on my Kronos 73 hands down, and rather would regard C1-C7 as the "abomination", while getting by with both.

And my 9+ years old Kronos has the additional advantage of having a weighted keybed, much needed for proper piano and EP play. It was a BIG mistake by Korg to abandon that option. I neither want a big and heavy 88, nor do I want a synth keybed.

In almost every possible way, the Nautilus would be a heavy downgrade from my old Kronos, and there's no way, I could imagine spending one cent on this misguided concept, with an unacceptably crippled controller field and other downgrades (like missing Karma, missing aftertouch), as Kronos owner.

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:07 pm

leonh wrote:Yes plenty of Kronos owners with money to burn and feed up waiting for new Kronos will get Nautilus just because they want something familiar especially if you are professional musician so based on that Korg did smart move.

many keyboard players have 2 or more significant keyboards.

to spend $5k, 6k, $7k for 2 or more keyboards is not unusual.

This is not a wild idea- I can see Kronos owners keeping their Kronos.

And also buying a Nautilus.

The Kronos will handle all the custom 3rd party stuff, personal samples.

Nautilus provides all the latest great sounds developed by Korg. This is what they excel at.

Best of both worlds, an all Korg rig. It would not surprise me.

Liviou2004 · Post by **Liviou2004** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 5:05 pm

I've smiled after loading the Nautilus Parameter Guide. : https://www.korg.com/us/support/downloa ... /873/4672/

Just try : go to page 705 and 706 and look at the two arrays, SNG Allocation and KSC allocation : "Internal memory of the Kronos after loading"

Don't you find this funny ?

kronoSphere · Post by **kronoSphere** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:13 pm

So let's vote ! :
Who is going to buy the Nautilus (While continuing to blame it in front of all of us!) ?!?!?!!

ArminH · Post by **ArminH** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:42 pm

Liviou2004 wrote: To be honnest, it would be a mystery for me, especially concerning professionnal musicians, as there is nothing new is this machine. If it's just a matter of new sounds, they can be played on the Kronos. So why buying this one ?

The same was true before Oasis-->Kronos.
Oasis was a better housing, bigger display, more and better controllers, better build quality, LED rings and lines to indicate current values....

Kronos was lighter, and less expensive...

leonh · Post by **leonh** » Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:34 pm

kronoSphere wrote:So let's vote ! :
Who is going to buy the Nautilus (While continuing to blame it in front of all of us!) ?!?!?!!

I would but for 1500£ max when that happens I will get it.

kronoSphere · Post by **kronoSphere** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:49 am

leonh you are not so far : The Nautilus 61 will be around 1700£
in France maybe 1949€ at the best

wet and sea

tunaman · Post by **tunaman** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:01 am

In case anyone hasn’t seen this:

https://youtu.be/p5EnqZtEv64

Luke does a walk-through... watching it now.

entonio · Post by **entonio** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:32 am

It's £1500 *max*. It's already a serious stretch.

For something that lags when you tell it to do something? In the 3rd decade of the 21st century? Is that for real?

I haven't seen anyone eager to get one.

archil · Post by **archil** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:54 am

How long does it take to boot?

jimknopf · Post by **jimknopf** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:37 am

There's no way I will buy this, from my view heavily flawed, concept: I can't do much with a powerful keyboard without a remotely useable controller interface, not speaking of the other downgrades I dislike very much.

kronoSphere · Post by **kronoSphere** » Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:05 am

7 video user guides very well done by "La Boite Noire" (in french but very clear and easy to understand)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEoYr7oeQlo