Question for the sampling mode

[miketime]

Hi Kronos friends!


I've been trying to do what Kid_nepro explained in the link: How To Convert WAV File Sample Loops To Korg Kronos User Drum Patterns

http://www.kidnepro.com/blog/how-to-con ... -patterns/

But when I finally get to the sequencer the loop I created from the sampling mode don't loop the way I made it.. Only one bar and not two.. And if I have to change the sensitivity as you mentioned do I need to save it each time or can I just press exit?

Just to clarify what I've done so far and want: I manage to record a wav file from iTunes direct into the Kronos (stereo) witch I wanna use as an intro to a song and then later on take out 2 bars of that wav and turn it in to a loop that I trigger in a combi or program (combi would be better) and also wanna be able to change the bpm of that loop in case the band wanna play it a bit faster/slower.. So my wish is to have the Intro wav on the E1 key (no loop) and the sample loop on the F1 key, so I also can plays sounds at the same time..
Is this possible, would really appreciate if someone have a tutorial on this exact procedure..

Best regards,
Mike

[19naia]

Sequencer mode has a setting for "song length" and that sets the length of the entire song by measures. So if the song length setting is at one measure, you wont get anything to run or loop for longer than one measure.
Just something that could restrict length of anything playing through sequencer tracks.
Also the Resample feature lets you sample a sample that you are playing via the keys in program mode. You can load your sample into an initialized program and do program edits to it and then resample it as you play it. You may have it as a set length sample but you could Resample where you hit the key several times to repeat the smaple run over and over as you sample-record and then have that as a new expanded sample.

if you are working through pattern RPPR, there may be other things there that could restrict you pattern loop. I had hangups before in RPPR but thats because it has its own gauntlet of set up options different from basic Sequencer set up. There is a place to specify how many measures or maybe even how many beats a pattern will run in RPPR and thats separate from the song length setting.
It may apply if you are running your sample as a drum kit/program in RPPR. Its been a while since i set anything up in RPPR, so i can't tell you exactly where to go in RPPR, but the length setting for patterns is there.

Song length and inserted Pattern length in RPPR are the two places to check.
If they dont apply, i dont know what is going on, but i would suspect your sample set up didn't work out or missed a step or two in setting it up.

[miketime]

Thank you 19naia, I really appreciate your help!

I tried what you suggested but without any luck so as you said I do miss something in some of the steps but I can't figure out what..

I got to the sequencer and pressed the Pattern/RPPR tab and by pressing the play button I was able to hear back my loop as I wanted it but when I pressed the c# key it didn't loop..? After I noticed that I change the setting in the "Pattern Parameter" but nothing changed.

I still tried "convert to drum track pattern", went back to the program where I saved my ms but same there not the whole loop just a short bit of it... Gaaah I'm going nuts here lol.. Well I'm gonna keep trying, and if you or someone else have any ideas what I'm doing wrong, please, all info is appreciated!

[amit]

I do this a lot, and TBH I find it much easier to do it on computer and import into kronos.


You seem to be doing everything correctly , but you need to assign the pattern to a Key (C# or above key) and you need to be sure that RPPR is active (checked) in sequencer.

[19naia]

I went to smapling mode and looked at smapling edit options and "loop edit options"
So there is "Sampling edit" where you set the edits of the sample.
Then there is "Loop edit" where you set up your looping of the sample.

I saw the check box for "Loop Lock" in the loop edit tab's page, and i am not sure what that does but i guess it either latches the loop to continuos cycle or locks your loop edits into the sample to always play as you set it up to.

I just looked at the help button guide and it describes "loop lock" function as fixing the loop length in place as edited. It links the edit specified start and end points for the loop. It helps for creating rythm loops to match a desired tempo. It also auto adjust the loop to stay in the same overall length if you ever change the start or end edits.
Its sounds like your length of loop cycling is not coming out right and "loop lock check box would affect that if you havent checked it in loop edit tab of sampling mode.
"Loop lock" is right there right of the sample set up area of the screen where the start and end loop ranges get set up in loop edit tab page.
I went through every tab in Smapling mode and the only things i could find for affecting loop length was in loop edit and has to do with locking in your loop edits because you have already made your loop as desired. And if there is ever a save or write option after editing anywhere on kronos, use it -to be sure your edits follow you around the various modes you would port your setups into, like porting over from program or sampling into sequencer.
I wasn't able to explore "truncate" in edit mode but i think that just trims the edges off the actual sample/wavefile rather than loop length trimming. Truncate wasn't even accesible in loop edit mode but maybe because i didn't have a wave file or any sample data recorded at the time.

Like amit said -RPPR check box has to be checked in Sequencer mode to be used in seq. tracks. Its on the program mixer screen right of the slot for New Song selection where you input/call up your song number/file.
Check to see if "Loop Lock" check box is checked on in loop edit tab of sampling mode. Loop lock check box may be similar to RPPR check box where you need to set it on to have it's edits/setups work for you outside of the dedicated tab page or outside of sample start/play button control.
You already tried pattern edit for lengths in RPPR but the issue is happening in program MS as well, so its obviously not an RPPR edit issue. Its in the sample set up and the "Loop Lock" feature describes to the very details what problem you are having. Look it up in the help button user guide when you get to Loop Edit tab.
If this doesn't help, I give up and at least i learned something ,and thanks anyway for giving me something to explore and i hope you get the right help or work it out soon and keep us posted on any solutions we can learn from.