Any rumors on the next update?

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 7:06 am

Considering I can only use 6-7 parts before I have to deal with voice stealing, well....

h.vel · Post by **h.vel** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:06 am

Tarekith wrote:Considering I can only use 6-7 parts before I have to deal with voice stealing, well....

... I was thinking exactly the same!

wasstof · Post by **wasstof** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 8:09 am

On the subject of Voice Stealing has anyone else noticed that having a delay selected, even if the ifx isn't switched on, it uses up( at least) one Voice?

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:09 am

I hadn't noticed it, but I'm not surprised. They want the voice in reserve in case you toggle the effects on or off I guess.

Automageddon · Post by **Automageddon** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:47 am

SMK wrote:
dschroeter wrote: It's nice to see other companies attempt an Electribe type box.
Roland's been making "Electribe type boxes" since mid 90es...

SMK · Post by **SMK** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:46 am

My experience with voice stealing are different from others, that's for sure. What I am running into (and to me it's not a bad thing) is similar to having choke groups. As far drums (with no choke groups) I get no voice stealing at all. I can have all 8 drum parts going at once, no issues. Synths and notes are a little different. Yes I can have every part filled with with drums and synths/note based parts and I will hear every one of them. However, like a choke group, the voice cut out comes in rhythmically, not like an error or a faulty pattern. I don't mind this because it adds to the spontaneity of new sounds/patterns I would have not gotten other wise.

Voice stealing after 6 parts? That's never been the case for me...that's just weird. Delays have never been a factor in my voice count.

Tom 62 · Post by **Tom 62** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:20 pm

My E2S plays 16 voices without any hickups. More I have not yet needed

When adding a new part to a pattern I double check the following options:

Voice Assign
Alternate Mode
Filter = off if not in use
IFX = off, if not in use
Part Priority

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 12:23 pm

I fully admit I make use of the effect and filter models on pretty much all my parts

h.vel · Post by **h.vel** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:02 pm

wasstof wrote:On the subject of Voice Stealing has anyone else noticed that having a delay selected, even if the ifx isn't switched on, it uses up( at least) one Voice?

Thanks for figure this out! In my case (E2S) it absolutely depends on which IFX is selected (even if it is disabled). I can use:

- 6 pads simultaniously when IFX is set i.e. to Delay (the 7th pad will cause voice stealing)
- 12 pads simoultaniously when IFX is set to Punch (the 13th pad will cause voice stealing)

So, it seems that an unused IFX uses at least 1 voice. But still very strange that other users can play all 16 pads/tracks simultaniously without issues!? Even when I set all pads to mono, filters disabled, IFX/MFX disabled, priority=normal... I never could gain all 16 pads at once without voice stealing...

captain johnson · Post by **captain johnson** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:10 pm

Tarekith wrote:I fully admit I make use of the effect and filter models on pretty much all my parts

yeah I got your template for E2 an took off all filters, I only use 4 or 5 in one pattern max! I get drops outs on average about 9 parts but it's cool, I can live with that!

Do you think they could provide a screen update which shows the 24 voice limit etc? would be handy to tailor patterns for maximum usage

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:22 pm

My guess is that something like that would just eat up more CPU cycles.

captain johnson · Post by **captain johnson** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:36 pm

Hmmmm. Well I hope they offer some kind of secret CPU power increase so it can do more stuff

simple update I reckon!

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:36 pm

I wish, to have all 16 parts with the full synth engine, dream!

SMK · Post by **SMK** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:30 am

Tarekith wrote:I wish, to have all 16 parts with the full synth engine, dream!

Apparently so does Novation...LOL

I'll admit, the secret to my 16 part voice success is that I generally never use poly1 or poly2. I understand that poly mode eats up voice memory like a monster. For my playing style, poly just interrupts the natural way that I perform. I have been so used to working with non poly synths for so long I grown conformable with it. As far as drums, I rarely effect and filter the drums. The amount of drum sounds is so over whelming that there is nothing I am missing. Since I own the sampler, that just doubles the different types of drum sounds I could ever need.

captain johnson · Post by **captain johnson** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:53 am

Tarekith wrote:I wish, to have all 16 parts with the full synth engine, dream!

Drool! thing is though the limitation by Korg is on purpose. They want you to get ES2 like SMK, then there's no voice stealing at all.