TR Rack question

[tony94fcom]

Do you guys think it has some interest to buy a Trinity (TR Rack) when you already own a Korg Triton Classic 61? are the patches really different?

[xavier]

Hi!

The TR rack will add some different sounds, but I guess it would be better to you to find an other brand, for example a Yamaha Motif Rack, a Roland JV, ...

I had both Trinity and Triton, and they had similar and complementary sounds. The Tritons were 88 keys, and the Trinity has 61 keys. I only have the Trinity for now (swapped the Triton with a Kurzweil PC3x).

[tony94fcom]

OK Xavier thanks for the answer. actually I already own a Roland JV2080 and it's very helpful in a lot of situations! Classic stuff.

I was getting infos about the Trinity because I'm heavily influenced by all those 90's classic synth sounds that you can hear on the albums from that era.

[Timo]

I was getting infos about the Trinity because I'm heavily influenced by all those 90's classic synth sounds that you can hear on the albums from that era.

The TR-Rack contains the classic M1 piano and M1 perc. organ waveforms that were used all over the mid/late-90's dance charts. The M1 piano and organ are not immediately available in the stock Trinity keyboard, however, unless the PBS is installed.

There are a few caveats you may need to be aware of when comparing Trinity keyboard vs TR-Rack, though. You can't install MOSS (Korg Z1 analogue/physical modelling) or PBS (playback sampler) into a TR-Rack, for example, but the TR-Rack has 8mb of extra, fixed waveforms that the standard Trinity keyboard doesn't (unless you install the PBS board into the Trinity).

For more info see:

Trinity vs. TR-Rack thread.
TR-Rack extra waveforms thread.

I'd say a TR-Rack is more capable than a stock Trinity keyboard if you can forgo the Trinity's touchscreen, as the TR-Rack has 8mb extra waveforms that the keyboard doesn't.

However, if you add the PBS to Trinity keyboard, the keyboard becomes more powerful than TR-Rack as the PBS enables you to upload new sample sets or your own samples to Trinity, unlike the TR-Rack's extra 8mb waveforms which are fixed.

If you also add MOSS to Trinity keyboard it becomes extremely powerful. But MOSS for Triton would be better as MOSS is multitimbral on the Triton, rather than monotimbral on the Trinity, and Triton has an arpeggiator while Trinity doesn't.

[billbaker]

Question is: are Triton (classic) and Trinity a good pair.

My opinion (I own both) is that they are not so very different - they cover much the same sonic ground and have very similar sounds. Very.

So without extensive programming of your own custom or 3rd party sounds on the Trinity the sound palate for Triton doesn't really get pushed very far -- not like it might if you paired it with, as Xavier suggested, a Roland or Yamaha module. If you're looking to reinforce triton's existing sounds Trinity Rack's not a bad choice, but to really expand your pallet you'll probably need to go "not Korg".

Design wise, all of these modules are trying to provide you with a similar set of sounds, but each will bring something unique to the table based on their approach and the synth's architecture.

You need not pay through the nose either, check out modules by EMU like Planet Phat or Extreme Lead for drums and lead sounds. They're dry (no effects) and sound very different than Triton.

Motif Rack (original) has, by some accounts, some issues with latency when used as a sequencer sound source, but should be fine for direct MIDI use (like the end user of an EXT channel from the Triton). It has a comparable arp capability - it's performance mode is a fair compromise between Triton-style arps KARMA's multi-scene set up as found on Kronos.

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Side note: If you do go Trinity, check out the TriNitro Librarian (archived here). It is a very good straightforward editor that with let you save, shuffle, and organize patches. It is not an editor. Any patch changes may break combination links so you'll have to do some preliminary work to make sure you're able to put the right sound in the combination slots after moving programs that are linked to combis.




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[tony94fcom]

so if I read you correctly, Trinity's factory presets are close to Triton's, sound wise.

very interesting infos here, thank you guys.

[80salife]

I own a trinity V3 and other specification 4 banks combi 4 banks programs plus Mossbank...

I owned a Korg Karma ( Triton engine)

The samples at Triton are much more and you can add cards, the samplequality is a bit higher at Triton.

The Trinity is classic sounding but that in a perfect kind. In natural sound the trinity have a medium standard all over in synth and pad first range!!!

With a trinity you have a perfect sound engine for playing in a band, his sounds has pressure and warmness!

For studioworking is the Triton maybe a better solution...


I don't like the newer Roland and Yamahas racks, they have surely their strength but at least they lost to comparable KORG at least...