Touchscreen DAW on a Mac

Bachus · Post by **Bachus** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:15 pm

http://youtu.be/I-TdsnSPyjo

Its there, they developed drivers for it.. Logic seems to support touch fairly well....

Keep in mind, touchscreen daws in my opinion only work with screens 27" or larger, otherwise the elements become to small to touch, i am using ableton on a 27" touchscreen which works fairly well for me under windows 8.1

Touch and mac however seem to be made for eachother

jazlover · Post by **jazlover** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 5:25 am

My questions are is it only for Logic ProX and those using Yosemite?

Since I use Logic Pro 9, in order to upgrade it was just as expensive as buying Logic again for the first time.. It was not worth the upgrade for me.... only to throw Logic 9 in the trash for the latest and temporary greatest.
I have also avoided loading Yosemite because of problems with using audio from the internet. Apple Yosemite has nullified various audio applications in order top promote Apple ones. To use Yosemite means dump programs I know and find something new that works with Yosemite. I would rather spend time creating music than have to waste time programing computers.

Bachus · Post by **Bachus** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:08 am

jazlover wrote:My questions are is it only for Logic ProX and those using Yosemite?

Since I use Logic Pro 9, in order to upgrade it was just as expensive as buying Logic again for the first time.. It was not worth the upgrade for me.... only to throw Logic 9 in the trash for the latest and temporary greatest.
I have also avoided loading Yosemite because of problems with using audio from the internet. Apple Yosemite has nullified various audio applications in order top promote Apple ones. To use Yosemite means dump programs I know and find something new that works with Yosemite. I would rather spend time creating music than have to waste time programing computers.

I have a laptop with yosemite, and everything i use ( ableton, logic, VSTs, ) works as intended...

What they sell are generic touchscreen drivers for Yosemite.. They work with all programs, however they also indicate that it feels that logic feels like it is developed with touchscreens in mind..

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:55 am

In general I would say desktop Macs are a little behind in touchscreen support compared to Windows 8. I'm glad seems to work well but I don't see how you could say Logic is developed with touchscreen support in mind when that support has been sparse at best on OSX.

As for the upgrade to 10, most DAWs actually charge about that amount for an upgrade, with an initial purchase around 500/700 bucks. I suppose it may not be worth it if you're a hobbyist but Logic is incredible value and the only reason it is priced this low is because Apple are sinking a ton of money in it to guarantee market dominance. The flexitime/pitch engine and new drummer plugin alone are easily worth the cost, compared to third party competition.

Broadwave · Post by **Broadwave** » Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:14 am

Great idea, but a bit expensive for just driver software.

The only thing that's putting me off is that the guy in the demo seems very "hesitant" when touching parameters, judging by the demo, I'd work faster with a mouse.

I wonder how accurate it is, how fast can you work with it and how fast they could write new drivers when Apple does one of their point releases that renders certain drivers useless

jazlover wrote: I have also avoided loading Yosemite because of problems with using audio from the internet. Apple Yosemite has nullified various audio applications in order top promote Apple ones.

To be honest, I've lived in constant fear since Mavericks was released. I rely on an Alessis Multimix16 USB 2, which streams 18 audio channels over USB. Although it's now classed as a "legacy" product, Alessis had to write new drivers for Mavericks due to the outcry when the drivers stopped working - at the moment they still work with Yosemite 10.10.2, but I've no idea if the drivers will work with Apple's next point release.

Sometimes, I'm just so tempted to go back to Windows, but I love using Logic

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:10 am

Sonar is relatively far along with touch support, and judging by the reports from the users with large touchscreens, it is best in addition to mouse work, not as a pure replacement for it.

jazlover · Post by **jazlover** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:29 pm

I certainly appreciate the responses from Bachus and SanderX.

Logic is awesome! I know several people who have had problems with certain audio programs on Yosemite because Yosemite changed how the CPU sees the data. There are probably go-arounds solutions for this by now and there are certainly Apple favored programs (more profit for them) that were in on the Yosemite OS changes so that their programs work well. I am not a programmer. I would bet money people like Bachus and most of you know far more about it than I but I have personally seen the problems on a Yosemite machine. The pricing of an upgrade is an issue for me because of my circumstances .....but feel free to send cash

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For me speed and ease is everything. The more I can stay in the creative mindset the better I am. Even being able to give verbal commands would also be something great if the program would react quickly. Then I could justify spending cash I don't have yet. The future for DAW is very exciting. I wish I had programing skills. Thanks again for the responses.

Bertotti · Post by **Bertotti** » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:27 pm

FYI I didn't have the cash awhile back for logic X as well. I did save and I waited, just an fyi but, every now and then Best Buy will have a sale on apple app store cards. I bought two of them last time 100$ card for 90$ and used that to buy Logic X, if your patient you could get it for 180 like I did. Logic is a hell of a deal at 200$ but waiting for that sale was like icing on the cake! Careful though because iTunes cards and app store cards are not the same and are not interchangeable as far as i know.

As far as touch goes, I am fine with it on my iPhone or an iPad but I really have no desire for my laptop to be touchable. I am quite happy with the apple glide pad, for anything else I would rather have knobs and sliders. I have not tried the app for logic maybe it works great.

crazylounyc · Post by **crazylounyc** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:36 am

would be nice if they had demo driver version to see if it works on a Sony all-in-one touch screen.

Bachus · Post by **Bachus** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:59 am

crazylounyc wrote:would be nice if they had demo driver version to see if it works on a Sony all-in-one touch screen.

Sony all in one, sound like a windows pc with attached touchscrean? Why would you want to run mac drivers ona windows PC?

crazylounyc · Post by **crazylounyc** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:46 pm

Not to use on windows PC directly, but to stream to the screen more like it. Sony all in one has various inputs available. One is the ability to connect external HDMI sources. It can be used as a monitor. Maybe I'll try this without the drivers. To see if it's touch screen functionality is friendly directly from the OS.