New Kronos features for older Kronos?

Francois · Post by **Francois** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:10 am

phattbuzz wrote:anyone knows if the SGX2 will be offered to KRONOS 1/X owners...

The Berlin D piano will be a purchase for 1/X, but SGX-2 will be included in OS3 for 1/X, not just for those who buy Berlin D.

LivePsy · Post by **LivePsy** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:11 am

I'm betting the new OS 3 features are over hyped by the fans. Like dragging values on the screen - didn't change my life at all on the M3. Significantly missing is piano roll editing. Lower price point spinoffs have it, but not Kronos.

I am also sure the editing of programs from combis sounds way overstated. Korg workstation weakest point is the limited prog editing both from inside and outside prog mode. You can edit a lot of parametres but its unintuitive and hard work.

Its cool and all, its great that Korg do a new update. But it won't make better music and won't improve your workflow. I could sample on the Kronos, but I don't. MPC is far better for my needs there. Having the features is not enough, having an improved workflow is an upgrade.

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GregC · Post by **GregC** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:56 am

LivePsy wrote:I'm betting the new OS 3 features are over hyped by the fans. Like dragging values on the screen - didn't change my life at all on the M3. Significantly missing is piano roll editing. Lower price point spinoffs have it, but not Kronos.

I am also sure the editing of programs from combis sounds way overstated. Korg workstation weakest point is the limited prog editing both from inside and outside prog mode. You can edit a lot of parametres but its unintuitive and hard work.

Its cool and all, its great that Korg do a new update. But it won't make better music and won't improve your workflow. I could sample on the Kronos, but I don't. MPC is far better for my needs there. Having the features is not enough, having an improved workflow is an upgrade.

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I get it. You are not impressed before and think this is 2.3.

It does not have to be everyone's cup of tea and never will satisfy everyone. It's a machine heavy in detail and takes lots of repetitive finger muscle memory.

LivePsy · Post by **LivePsy** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:13 am

There's synthesists and there's keyboardists. Different purposes really. I must be in the wrong group

It's almost Korg's fault. The SGX-1 is so good that SGX-2 just doesn't seem like the leap to 3.0. Sorry to disagree...

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psionic311 · Post by **psionic311** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 5:40 am

I got my Kronos in May 2014, and immediately upgraded to OS2.1. The new CX-3 organ engine and the KRS-06 artist-inspired organs were great for me as an aspiring 70s classic and Southern rock keyboardist.

Then I discovered burningbusch's song-inspired patches to fuel my 80s synth needs.

When OS 2.1.2 was announced along with demos of Funk and Soul Brass last month, the cinematic French horns and ensemble trombones and pretty decent trumpets and saxes convinced me to drop $99 within a week.

And now hearing that OS3 will make my Kronos render 12 velocity pianos with sympathetic string resonance, I'm pretty stoked! The new song-driven programs, the improved and color-coded set list functions, auto shutdown, direct program editing within combis and set lists, and a few more practical tweaks and bonus features make this one great early holiday treat... Thx Korg!

ferchis · Post by **ferchis** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:34 am

regarding the 3.0 system upgrade, will it still contain the new feaures for CX3 hammond organs and new organ banks? I'm still at 2.0.6 ...

Broadwave · Post by **Broadwave** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:41 am

ferchis wrote:will it still contain the new feaures for CX3 hammond organs and new organ banks? I'm still at 2.0.6 ...

Yes, updates are cumulative. Look at the new V3 Voice Name List - all the OS 2.1 "revised" CX3 patches are there.

Artmuzz · Post by **Artmuzz** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:15 pm

The new Kronos OS 3.0 looks good but its a shame that some of the new features on this update aren't custom editing on Karma and Piano roll on midi note editing.

genehart · Post by **genehart** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:25 pm

I wonder will this Drag function work on older Kronos/KronosX TouchView models ?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:36 pm

Sure will - M3 has the same resistive touchscreen as all other Korgs.

genehart · Post by **genehart** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:42 pm

EvilDragon wrote:Sure will - M3 has the same resistive touchscreen as all other Korgs.

this is great ! so we can hope for "piano roll" function to be added in the future .

Mike Conway · Post by **Mike Conway** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:11 pm

LivePsy wrote:There's synthesists and there's keyboardists. Different purposes really. I must be in the wrong group

I guess it depends on the kind of music. A lot of jazz or country players aren't going to mess with weird sounds; they're going to stick to piano sounds.

The bands I grew up liking (The Cars, Styx, Journey, Foreigner, Rush) did a lot of tweaking, making signature sounds.

I relate to that kind of sonic manipulation. There are two kinds of music that I make:

1) First is the "quick jingle" kind, where I can quickly use presets, KARMA and drum patterns, for lower end projects that don't get a lot of exposure, like industrial videos and local commercials.

2) Second, and most important, is the music that I consider "My music." Pop songs and movie type scores, which are bolstered by "signature sounds," that no one else has. They help identify my work and sound.

That's not to say I wasn't inspired by others. I really liked some of these:

Rush's synth sweep on "Tom Sawyer."
Depeche Mode's bass line on "Enjoy The Silence."
Bernard Herrmann's Theremin on THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL.
Jerry Goldsmith's inclusion of the Blaster Beam on STAR TREK: TMP.
John William's string sections on the JAWS theme.

And, just about every other hit song from the 80's - Flock of Seagull's "I Ran" intro, etc.

Many creating artists are pioneers and explorers of sound. This group of people, especially the keyboardists, synthesists, samplers, are the ones who spend countless hours tweaking sounds and technology.

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:13 pm

genehart wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:Sure will - M3 has the same resistive touchscreen as all other Korgs.
this is great ! so we can hope for "piano roll" function to be added in the future .

piano roll has been requested 10,821 times on this forum

PCFREE · Post by **PCFREE** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:20 pm

GregC wrote:
genehart wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:Sure will - M3 has the same resistive touchscreen as all other Korgs.
this is great ! so we can hope for "piano roll" function to be added in the future .
piano roll has been requested 10,821 times on this forum

Please add a piano roll, Korg!
10,822.

GregC · Post by **GregC** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 3:24 pm

PCFREE wrote:
GregC wrote:
genehart wrote: this is great ! so we can hope for "piano roll" function to be added in the future .
piano roll has been requested 10,821 times on this forum

Please add a piano roll, Korg!
10,822.

one more request and it will never be added to any update