Is it just me, or do the guitar programs sound horrible?

[EvilDragon]

If you want to hear killer guitar sounds in a keyboard, check out the Yamaha Tyros 5. I know, I know, It's an arranger and most synth players twist their nose at it, but they have a new DSP section built on Vintage Amp modeling that takes the core samples and creates unbelievable emulations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQnyEKqNV7Q

Hmm... distorted sounds are absolutely crap and plastic sounding. Unbelievably realistic emulation? No, I don't think so.

Cleans are good, but anything else just doesn't fare well IMHO.

[SanderXpander]

Not nearly as warm as Kurzweil, you mean?

[GregC]

Not nearly as warm as Kurzweil, you mean?

and where is my Kurzweil t-shirt ?

[EvilDragon]

Not nearly as warm as Kurzweil, you mean?

I didn't imply anything. I'm just commenting how the video examples sounded, not comparing it to any other manufacturers. Those overdriven sounds did NOT sound good at all. Harsh and unlike a real tube amp.

[SanderXpander]

Lol it just seemed oddly long since you made a comparison like that :p

[jimknopf]

It's a well known problem, but Korg hasn't reacted so far.

The Kronos overdriven eguitar patches are even worse than what I had on my Fantom G (and the latter is no board I am praising too much normally).

After some really great Kronos updates (one more big thanks to Korg for that!), to me the one thing I miss most are amp simulations with useable(!) tube saturation up to overdrive.

This would immediately give a big quality push to
- EGuitar sounds
- Synth leads and basses
- Rhodes sounds
- Wurly sounds
- Clav sounds
and more

In one word: this is the one most essential thing I miss in the present Kronos OS, and I'm reminded of this flaw a lot in daily use.

[drama1]

Not a big fan of E. Guitar on keys, but I have to admit this demo IMHO sounds pretty convincing. But the player has to play like a guitar player, not a keys player. I'm just judging the sounds, not the playing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqBirEhOAV4

[drama1]

Ok. Just one more showing what IMHO is a pretty good guitar sound on synth. Again, it's best to think and play like a guitar player when imitating guitar. This guy's shredding takes away from the realism of the guitar sound, but strictly going by sound, this is one of the better country guitar sounds I've heard on a synth.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiTNQ0OYx5k

[BobTheDog]

Not a big fan of E. Guitar on keys, but I have to admit this demo IMHO sounds pretty convincing. But the player has to play like a guitar player, not a keys player. I'm just judging the sounds, not the playing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqBirEhOAV4

As a guitar player, at no point did any of that clip sound anything like a guitar!

[BobTheDog]

How about this, using omnisphere, sequenced by a Genoqs Nemo:

http://electro-music.com/forum/phpbb-fi ... ar_170.mp3

[drama1]

Not a big fan of E. Guitar on keys, but I have to admit this demo IMHO sounds pretty convincing. But the player has to play like a guitar player, not a keys player. I'm just judging the sounds, not the playing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqBirEhOAV4

As a guitar player, at no point did any of that clip sound anything like a guitar!

Not even a little?
Well, I'm sure you'd know better than I since I have a hard enough time playing keyboards, let alone guitar.

[BobTheDog]

I just had a second listen, this time with less beer inside me!

Still though it just doesn't sound like a guitar, each note is just like the rest, everything is very static.

Guitars just don't sound like this, it is very hard for a guitarist to get each note to sound exactly the same, variations in fretting pressure and picking make a big difference.

I thought the second clip sounded better but it still sounded like a keyboard to me.

[NuSkoolTone]

Not a big fan of E. Guitar on keys, but I have to admit this demo IMHO sounds pretty convincing. But the player has to play like a guitar player, not a keys player. I'm just judging the sounds, not the playing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqBirEhOAV4

As a guitar player, at no point did any of that clip sound anything like a guitar!

+1

[jeebustrain]

I just had a second listen, this time with less beer inside me!

Still though it just doesn't sound like a guitar, each note is just like the rest, everything is very static.

Guitars just don't sound like this, it is very hard for a guitarist to get each note to sound exactly the same, variations in fretting pressure and picking make a big difference.

I thought the second clip sounded better but it still sounded like a keyboard to me.

While I will agree for some of the overdriven stuff, I've found that I can get a pretty OK sounding guitar when I play a bit more sparse. If I try and do a heavy riff, it always sounds like crap. I'm definitely not a guitar player, so more of those "riff" oriented things, I usually leave to more keyboard oriented sounds. Otherwise it'll always end up sounding like an old Nokia Ringtone

This is one of the KORE64 guitar sounds - I was specifically going for a reverb laden, clean Andy Summers/Steve Rothery 80's sounding strat.
https://soundcloud.com/thefiltersaturat ... ode-sunset

This was a little demo I did a while back and used an Omnisphere lead guitar sound
https://soundcloud.com/thefiltersaturation/big-80s-demo

I've done a couple tracks like this, but I went with a volume swell effect using a synth lead patch on my v-synth, while playing with the amp envelope in realtime. There's a solo at the end and various parts throughout the piece. To me, it sounds a little on along the lines of Steve Hacket's volume swell lead tone on Firth Of Fifth.
https://soundcloud.com/thefiltersaturat ... or-dummies

[BobTheDog]

The first one, I must admit I am not sure which part is meant to be a guitar!

The Second one is pretty darn good, the guitars in Omnisphere I think are outstanding.

The third one is also pretty good. I like that VSynth patch, I might have to take a look at that one.

Nice job all around really, I think the third one could definitely trick me into thinking it was a guitar player using a volume pedal or slow swell sort of effect.

Nice tunes as well