Best practices for backing up your Kronos regularly

Cobra Jet · Post by **Cobra Jet** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:16 pm

What are the recommended best practices for backing up your Kronos regularly? In a different post I found that someone mentioned that there is a better way to save a set list. “Unfortunately, I think most people will just use the Write set list command and maybe not the Disk mode save.”

Also, what is the best way to back up everything to something like a USB drive in the event that your Kronos completely dies?

Here is what I have been doing:
If I create a new Program or Combi, I save it to one of the User Banks. If I plan on using it for a show, I add it to a set list and then write set list before turning off the Kronos. I have also saved a couple of samples to a folder on the SSD.

AdDeRoo · Post by **AdDeRoo** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:43 pm

I do a "SAVE ALL" and store it both on the Kronos and on a USB stick, to store the backup on an external portable pc.

I do this once I have made (substantial) changes to a few Programs, Combi's, Setlists, or other, but at least twice a month

Never lost a thing.., and recovered items when I accidentally overwrote / deleted something

After some time, I delete the 'in between' backups to make space, but keep some essential ones

NuSkoolTone · Post by **NuSkoolTone** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:49 pm

Let me add..backup to USB stick or get an ethernet/wireless adapter and FTP backup your files to another computer (What I do)

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:40 pm

I don't just practise backing up regularly, I actually do back up regularly. (using SAVE ALL at least once a month.. if the Kronos has been turned on that month)

rs.felicio · Post by **rs.felicio** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:06 am

Just to remember...

I think that On 2.0, the save all process don't save the user's folders...just the sampling (ram). For example if you have used a Bush's packages like sonatina strings.....to do a Full backup you need to copy the folder with samples and multisamples...

AdDeRoo · Post by **AdDeRoo** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 7:21 am

rs.felicio wrote: you need to copy the folder with samples and multisamples...

Indeed, SAVE ALL does not save you the sampling files you use. I typically keep public domain or self created sampling libraries in specific subdirectories on the Kronos HD/SSD and make sure I have a full backup of those as well on an external pc, using normal copy commands thru USB stick

Cobra Jet · Post by **Cobra Jet** » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:00 pm

AdDeRoo wrote:
rs.felicio wrote: you need to copy the folder with samples and multisamples...
Indeed, SAVE ALL does not save you the sampling files you use. I typically keep public domain or self created sampling libraries in specific subdirectories on the Kronos HD/SSD and make sure I have a full backup of those as well on an external pc, using normal copy commands thru USB stick

So to get anything that I copied to a folder on the SDD and need to copy that over separately after the Save All????

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:55 am

Save All saves:
PCG data, these are all your programs and combinations and global settings.
SNG data, meaning all songs that are actually loaded/recorded into the sequencer at this point in time.
KGE data, any custom Karma Generated Effects (only applicable if you have/use the extra Karma software or loaded a soundset with custom KGEs)
Sampling Data, meaning all samples and multisamples that are currently loaded into RAM via sampling mode (you can see this easily by going to sampling mode)

That should get most of your stuff. What it explicitly does NOT save is;
Songs (perhaps with audio recordings) that are on your disk but were not loaded at the time of saving.
Samples and Userbanks that were not loaded into sampling mode at the time of saving.
Any audio files recorded to disk.

So making a good backup really requires understanding what you want to save. If it's "everything" then you might as well just do a save all and copy everything on the disk to a flash drive/external disk. Most of the time this is not the case though. I keep any sample collections/userbanks in a backup on my laptop hd, they're there if anything should ever happen, it's no use copying them everytime. The whole point of userbanks is that they don't see much editing and can therefore be streamed. If you record a lot of audio with your songs you might want to back that up at some point. If, like me, you never do, don't worry about it. Etc etc.

AlexJoKeys · Post by **AlexJoKeys** » Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:02 pm

If you do FTP, can you are all the kronos files? Like setlists, programs, combis, sample data... And just drag them over to a pc for backup?

I'm thinking of getting an Ethernet adapter...

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Thu Sep 12, 2013 3:54 pm

You can get all sample collections etc, but not the Kronos OS. That also means you'll have to save your combinations and programs to disk before you can see them from FTP.

ronnfigg · Post by **ronnfigg** » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:24 pm

I create separate folders for all the projects that I work on. I always load them at bootup depending on which project I'm working on and then at the end of the session I do a save all. To backup I simply copiy the folders from the SSD to an external USB device. It does save all of your data as long as it is in the folder that you are saving. treat the process like file management on your computer. Also, you might want to consider saving it all to a cloud for obvious reasons.

Theshae · Post by **Theshae** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:11 am

I recently had a boot error on my Kronos which scared the S$%$ out of me so now I want to be proactive and save all my data on a secondary device. I am using a USB drive at the moment. I did a Save All onto my USB but i do not see any of my sng files, I use my Kronos primarily to save SNG files in sequence so having combi and programs saved doesn't benefit me at all.

Anyone know how to save all my sng files at once? It looks to be the only way to do it is to load all my sng (I have a LOT) and then Do a Save Seq to my USB.... that seems a little extreme. Please someone help me so I can take care of this ASAP.

ronnfigg · Post by **ronnfigg** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:35 am

Check the Operation Guide. The answer is definitely there.

Theshae · Post by **Theshae** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:36 am

The guide says that if I Save All then the sng files will be saved as well, i have done it 3 different times now and everything seems to be saved except the sng files.

ronnfigg · Post by **ronnfigg** » Fri Sep 27, 2013 5:43 am

PS- in Disk Mode go to the Utility Tab, find your SNG folder and copy it to your USB device. Be sure to load your SNG files from this location and in the future save them all to this location. Might be a good idea to also save them in a cloud for added protection.

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