Assigning a MIDI Channel to the MONO/POLY and WaveStation

engineerjoel · Post by **engineerjoel** » Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:44 pm

I'd like to assign both the Wavestation and Mono/Poly their own receiving MIDI channels. I'd like the Wavestation to receive Midi on Channel 3 and the Mono/Poly to receive Midi on channel 4. Is this possible?

thanks,

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:02 am

This should be possible within your plugin host, if you're using one. I don't remember if standalone had option to change the MIDI channel, as I didn't use them much to be frank.

engineerjoel · Post by **engineerjoel** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:15 pm

yea, I'm wanting to run the Wavestation in standalone mode in parallel with the M1 legacy. I am able to set/change the basic Midi channel on the M1 and it works perfectly in standalone.

It appears that the wavestation legacy is set permanently to OMNI mode and therefore make the plug-in totally useless when trying the both the wavestation and another plug-in (such as the M1 Legacy) at the same time in standalone mode.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:09 pm

Personally I never do "plugin tryout in standalone mode" - a plugin should be tried out in a host.

That doesn't necessarily have to be a DAW. If you're on PC, download the free SAVIhost and load up the plugin. Now you can go to Plugin->Filters, and enable MIDI channel filters for all channels you don't want to send to the plugin.

jdoo · Post by **jdoo** » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:50 pm

Another (middle-ground) option,if you use a Mac - is to pick up MainStage. MainStage will allow you to create patches that use any plug-ins, assigning them to whatever MIDI channel you want. An added benefit to this approach... is you can layer, split, stack, etc... any combination of plugins... KLC or any others.

kanthos · Post by **kanthos** » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:00 pm

engineerjoel wrote:yea, I'm wanting to run the Wavestation in standalone mode in parallel with the M1 legacy. I am able to set/change the basic Midi channel on the M1 and it works perfectly in standalone.

What are you actually trying to accomplish by doing this? I can't think of any reason to run multiple standalone plugins at once, other than as a sort of science experiment. I'm sure there's a better way to do what you actually want to do, so why don't you let us know what that is and we can help you with that, rather than you trying to use standalone plugins to do something they weren't really supposed to do.

If you insist on running multiple standalone programs, there are ways that you can split the MIDI stream. I'm guessing you're on a Mac, because Windows apps wouldn't share the audio driver that nicely (I don't know how you'd run more than one program on Windows, unless you have multiple audio interfaces). OSX has something built in to let you set up virtual MIDI connections between programs. Either by itself, or using a tool like Bome's MIDI Translator, you should be able to split your input feed into two virtual MIDI outputs and route one to each program. If OSX doesn't have filtering by MIDI channel built into that, then Bome's MIDI Translator will certainly do the job. I can't help more on the OSX side because I'm not a Mac user, but I do know Bome's really well.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jul 27, 2013 8:07 am

kanthos wrote:I'm guessing you're on a Mac, because Windows apps wouldn't share the audio driver that nicely (I don't know how you'd run more than one program on Windows, unless you have multiple audio interfaces).

Err, no. Both WASAPI shared mode and ASIO allows you to share audio driver between applications.

engineerjoel · Post by **engineerjoel** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 2:34 pm

@ KANTHOS. What I'm trying to do...or what like to accomplish is.... to be able to run each of the softsynths as standalones (without using a HOST). Treat each synth as an ole-school hardware unit...where each synth as its own MIDI RX Channel.

The reason that I'm wanting to run the plugins exclusively as standalones is because I've yet to come across a Host program that will allow me to open multiple softsynths at one time; assign each synth its own Midi RX channel....as well as finding a stable host that wont crash. For instance, when I open M1 (or WS) as a standalone, the plugin is completely stable and never crashes. But, when I use any host to run the M1, the results are stuck notes and random program changes and system overloads and crashes. I've tried using NI's KORE2, Mac's Mainstage, Protools and StudioOne as hosts and none of these can keep up with what I'm trying to program for live use.

Currently,I'm using a Yamaha KX-88 as a Midi Controller and several Yamaha MEP-4 Midi Event Procesors which were once used to control the actual M1/T-series and Wavestation Keyboards. Now that the keyboards have been retired, I would just like to simply replace each of the keyboard versions witha softsynth, open each of the plugins, assign them a MIDI RX channlel (just like the keyboard versions) and continue jamming as ususal.

Puzzling question: why did KORG include the feature to change/set the basic midi RX channel for the softsynth M1 but not for the softsynth WS...nor any of the remaining softsynths within the bundle????

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:09 pm

engineerjoel wrote:The reason that I'm wanting to run the plugins exclusively as standalones is because I've yet to come across a Host program that will allow me to open multiple softsynths at one time; assign each synth its own Midi RX channel....as well as finding a stable host that wont crash.

That's easy. I do that ALL THE TIME in Reaper 4. No crashes what-so-freaking-ever.

engineerjoel · Post by **engineerjoel** » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:26 pm

Hey EvilDragon,

Thanks for the reply and info. I did take your advice and downloaded REAPER 4. It works perfectly! My new favorite DAW. Thanks Again!

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:46 am

Glad you like it.