Envelope Retrigger / Legato Retrigger

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tpantano
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Envelope Retrigger / Legato Retrigger

Post by tpantano »

Hi!

Is there a way to patch the MS-20 so that every keypress will retrigger the envelope(s), regardless of wether the new note was played legato or not?

I tried running the keyboard 'Trig Out' into the Envelope Trigger to no avail.
Current: MS-20 Mini, Minilogue, SY77
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Post by Re-Member »

This has been something I've been trying to figure out as well, so if I stumble upon a way to patch this, I'll let you know. It's been a pain because when I sequence out notes on my DAW, I have to manually shorten each note to create gaps that will retrigger the envelope. My SH-101 has a gate switch to retrigger the envelope, so it's confusing that it doesn't work on the MS-20.
Roland Juno-60, SH-101, TR-606, MC-505, Casio CZ-101, Yamaha DX100, DX11, Kawai R-50e // Korg R3, microSTATION, Monotribe, MS-20 Mini, SQ-1, minilogue, electribe sampler, Volca series: Bass, Keys, Beats, Sample, FM, Kick, Moog Theremin
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Post by plosive »

No, it's low note priority legato only. You can setup a momentary switch to manually re-trigger the envs while playing, but if you're looking to do this with midi/daw you need to use note offs.

On a related note, if you want a note retriggered LFO you can use ENV1 as an LFO by plugging it into itself. Legato rules still apply.
korgs: MS20, MS20 Mini, MS2000, KP1/KP3, Kaossilator, microX, padKontrol, DS-10+, Electribe ESX-1, ER1-MKII, Monotribe+midi
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Post by tpantano »

plosive wrote:No, it's low note priority legato only. You can setup a momentary switch to manually re-trigger the envs while playing, but if you're looking to do this with midi/daw you need to use note offs.

On a related note, if you want a note retriggered LFO you can use ENV1 as an LFO by plugging it into itself. Legato rules still apply.
Thanks for this! Made some really cool effects via using the envelope as an atypical LFO- plugged the Envelope out into its trigger, then plugged the reverse amplitude into the S&H input, the pulse LFO as its clock, and the output into the filter, with some amplitude decay. It created this really cool pseudo-delay effect.
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Current: MS-20 Mini, Minilogue, SY77
Past: Korg R3, Volca Bass, X50, Mg Slim Phatty, Rld Gaia SH-01, Yamaha TX81Z
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Post by plosive »

nice :)

btw..I said low note priority legato when I meant high note. =x
korgs: MS20, MS20 Mini, MS2000, KP1/KP3, Kaossilator, microX, padKontrol, DS-10+, Electribe ESX-1, ER1-MKII, Monotribe+midi
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Post by dannybaws »

Just in case anybody trying to retrigger the MS20 has Reason 7.0 or above I figured out a way to modify the MIDI messages to retrig the notes.

http://www.reasontalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=7491944
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