Export Sounds to ESX24 Sampler

Logicuser · Post by **Logicuser** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:24 am

Hello there,

first of all I would like to thank you guys that you have build such great forum. Great job !

I've googled around and your forum was the only one that had detailed answers.

I do some home recording (MAC / Logic Pro) just for fun. I do oriental and some RNB music.

Almost every keyboarder that I personally know, has a PA1xpro, Pa2, Pa3, Triton Extreme, an M3 or a KRONOS.
They do have Multi Sample Instruments like a KANOUN in different variations
(different samples depending on the Dynamic/Velocity)
Here is an Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCc73qymEOk

Now I would like to know if there's a way to export Sounds out of the Korg an import it into the ESX24 Sampler.

It would be just awesome if you could help me out with that and give me a step by step instruction for DUMMIES

Thank you very much in advance and I hope to hear from you soon.

Cheers

LogicUSR

kid_nepro_2002 · Post by **kid_nepro_2002** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:31 pm

Well, if you can still find someone who is still selling "Auto Sampler", then that's probably your best bet. It was discontinued last year. Apple bought them out! Have not found anything as good for the Mac.

I've been using it the last few years with great success. It samples from hardware & software instruments, does all the looping for you and even automatically sets up the instruments in EXS24, Kontakt or Reason formats. Very cool! Here's some links.....

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/feb05/a ... ampler.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7WChokPQDI

Logicuser · Post by **Logicuser** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:55 pm

kid_nepro_2002 wrote:Well, if you can still find someone who is still selling "Auto Sampler", then that's probably your best bet. It was discontinued last year. Apple bought them out! Have not found anything as good for the Mac.

I've been using it the last few years with great success. It samples from hardware & software instruments, does all the looping for you and even automatically sets up the instruments in EXS24, Kontakt or Reason formats. Very cool! Here's some links.....

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/feb05/a ... ampler.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7WChokPQDI

Hi Kid_nepro_2002,

thank you very much for the answer.
But I guess that is not what I was looking for.
The KANOUN Sound on the video that I have posted above is a mulstisample Sound. It means, that it has been sampled key for key, variation for variation and so on and has been added to a group.
Then they have converted it or have added the Sample files (wav aiff akai format ect ...) into KMP or KSC or PCG I think. I'm not really familiar with the KORG formats.

So if they have been sampled and converted into the Korg formats then it MUST be possible to convert KSC, KMP or PCG into wav. AKAI and so on and so on.
I do not mean the internal Synthesizer sounds from the Korg. Only the Sample sounds.
Isn't there something like that ?

kid_nepro_2002 · Post by **kid_nepro_2002** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:56 pm

That's not the way it works.

Programs like Auto Sampler are designed to sample as many notes as you want and at many different velocity's. It's all according to how you set it up when your doing the sampling. It does not matter if it's a synth patch from a Kronos engine like AL-1 or a sample from the HD-1 engine. It's samples anything!

The thing is, after you have sampled the sound you like and set up a multisample, that's only part of what programming a sound is all about. The wav files that are created using programs like Auto Sampler are just the starting point and it's really up to you to get the programming together to make a "patch". Adjustments in the envelopes "release section" and filters "cutoff switch" are sure to pop up in many files (just to name a couple). You can also add effects to complement the sound of the wavs. Raw files still need to be worked on in order to get the sound the way you want it.

Auto Sampler address part of this, (as I mentioned) by automatically converting the samples into a EXS24, Kontakt or Reason programs. It sets it up for you so you don't have to do any "keymapping". Still, you can't just convert a sound from one format to another and have everything that's programmed into the original stay intact. Unfortunately (or maybe not

), there are no programs that will automatically do all the programming for you, but programs like Auto Sampler certainly go along way in getting you started. The rest is up to you.

Having said all that, you might want to also take a look at Chicken Systems "Translator" (no flames please). I believe Garth has, or is working on a conversion for Korg formats. I'm not sure if it's ready yet or how well it works if it is, but everything I mentioned above still hold true. Here's a Translator link…..

http://www.chickensys.com/products2/tra ... index.html

Hope this help!

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:31 pm

You can use Awave Studio to Open the KMPs and then you can convert
them to many different formats. Also i think Extreme Sample Converter
can do it too, you should be able to easily get them to EXS24.

Logicuser · Post by **Logicuser** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:24 pm

Thank you guys ... Sounds great. Will have to check that

:3dread:

kid_nepro_2002 · Post by **kid_nepro_2002** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:38 pm

BasariStudios wrote:You can use Awave Studio to Open the KMPs and then you can convert
them to many different formats. Also i think Extreme Sample Converter
can do it too, you should be able to easily get them to EXS24.

Yes, but he's on a Mac system.

Logicuser wrote:Thank you guys ... Sounds great. Will have to check that

Awave Studio & Extreme Sample Converter are PC programs. There is no Mac support. Translator will work on both Mac & PC.

Good Luck!

ed_f · Post by **ed_f** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:58 pm

Anybody using SampleRobot? I haven't really looked into it, but seems to be a mac answer to this.

kid_nepro_2002 · Post by **kid_nepro_2002** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:03 pm

ed_f wrote:Anybody using SampleRobot? I haven't really looked into it, but seems to be a mac answer to this.

Interesting. I thought that was PC based too, but I had a look at their web site and it looks like they are about to release a Mac version. Lot's of cool features including export to EXS24. I might just go for it myself! Thanks for the tip Ed.

http://www.samplerobot.com/

seapea · Post by **seapea** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:10 pm

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Interesting. I thought that was PC based too, but I had a look at their web site and it looks like they are about to release a Mac version.

Samplerobot has had a combined PC/Mac version out for over a year now. I have it and it works well on Mac. This new release looks like a standalone Mac version

chickeneps · Post by **chickeneps** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:55 pm

KidNepro is right: Translator has converted out of Korg format for quite sometime now. It is Mac and Windows.

All what has beeen suggested are incomplete solutions.

Translator can take the KMP/KSF sections out, based on the KSC - or the PCG if Triton - and convert it fine to EXS24, on the Mac.

Before the month is over, it will support converting out of Kronos and M3 PCG's, that way you get all the velocity splits and real-time programming.

Not only that, Translator has a small AutoSampler so you can convert ANYTHING off your Korg and play it in your EXS24.

And this is on a Mac, no bothering with Windows.

One product - your platform - Translator. www.chickensys.com

SanderXpander · Post by **SanderXpander** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:12 pm

Does CST now also support VST sampling and exporting to the Kronos?

Post by **Sharp** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:22 pm

chickeneps wrote: All what has beeen suggested are incomplete solutions.

I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion.

The KRONOS reads SF2 format directly, including all the SF2 filter information. So there's no advantage in you offering KORG's native file format.

Sample Robot is for PC and Mac.
Extreme Sample Converter is PC only.

Does Translator even have an Auto Sampling function to sample VSTi's ? I see no mention of that on your website.

Regards
Sharp.