Believe I Just Saw Korgs Big Announcement..I need answers

tmatos75 · Post by **tmatos75** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:13 am

BasariStudios wrote:This is sad and stupid...and we don't get this Cubase like Sequencer...
what a disappointment.

Why are some individuals whining about a sequencer? It's 2012. Who uses a hardware sequencer anymore? Everything is done on a computer nowdays.

I'd rather see Korg get rid of the advanced sequencer features (that nobody I know uses anyway), leave a basic midi sequencer player, and lower the price point of the Kronos and Krome instead.

Real musicians dont use sequencers live. Its like cheating.
And if your going to sequence in the studio, use Sonar X, or some other software.

My two cents.

Jakker27 · Post by **Jakker27** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:18 am

tmatos75 wrote:
BasariStudios wrote:This is sad and stupid...and we don't get this Cubase like Sequencer...
what a disappointment.
Why are some individuals whining about a sequencer? It's 2012. Who uses a hardware sequencer anymore? Everything is done on a computer nowdays.

I'd rather see Korg get rid of the advanced sequencer features (that nobody I know uses anyway), leave a basic midi sequencer player, and lower the price point of the Kronos and Krome instead.

Real musicians dont use sequencers live. Its like cheating.
And if your going to sequence in the studio, use Sonar X, or some other software.

My two cents.

That's really not true. Plenty of people use hardware....No one really cares who you know. Real musicians.....

Please....terrible attitude. I don't know if you're aware of this, but on this forum it looks like your two cents is in the minority. The Kronos is as good in the studio as it is live. If they put the m3 update on the Kronos, the issue would soon disappear and they are intelligent enough to know that.

What I'd prefer seeing is someone from korg showing us how they use the sequencer and showing people why it don't need updating........but to be fair to korg, vids of that nature might be out there. My first korg was an m3. Vids show casing the trinity etc - but when it is such an issue, something's not quite right.

Sam CA · Post by **Sam CA** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:28 am

tmatos75 wrote:Real musicians dont use sequencers live. Its like cheating.

How did you come up with this idea? How did you figure out what a "Real musician" should or should not use in a live performance?!!!

db1 · Post by **db1** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:43 am

tmatos75 wrote:
BasariStudios wrote:This is sad and stupid...and we don't get this Cubase like Sequencer...
what a disappointment.
Why are some individuals whining about a sequencer? It's 2012. Who uses a hardware sequencer anymore? Everything is done on a computer nowdays.

I'd rather see Korg get rid of the advanced sequencer features (that nobody I know uses anyway), leave a basic midi sequencer player, and lower the price point of the Kronos and Krome instead.

Real musicians dont use sequencers live. Its like cheating.
And if your going to sequence in the studio, use Sonar X, or some other software.

My two cents.

Your really reaching with those comments.

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:50 am

tmatos75 wrote:Why are some individuals whining about a sequencer? It's 2012. Who uses a hardware sequencer anymore? Everything is done on a computer nowdays.

The last time i used Korg's Sequencer was before 99' on the IX300, since
then i have own every single Korg WS but never used it and never will.
Of course...then i have no right to whine...but, this is called a WS and the
reason i paid 3000$ is the WS name on it...which means Sequencer too,
using it or not...it should be there.

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:51 am

tmatos75 wrote:Real musicians dont use sequencers live. Its like cheating.

That show that you have no clue of music...so not worth the replyand wasting
time on you...there is real musicians in here so i'll waste my time with them.

SeedyLee · Post by **SeedyLee** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:29 am

tmatos75 wrote: Why are some individuals whining about a sequencer? It's 2012. Who uses a hardware sequencer anymore? Everything is done on a computer nowdays.

Um, how does one run a sequencer without hardware? Whether it's a standalone computer, or the computer integrated into the KRONOS, I'm pretty sure all sequencers are hardware based.

For me it's a joy to be able to do everything on the one device.

tmatos75 · Post by **tmatos75** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:36 am

BasariStudios wrote:
tmatos75 wrote:Why are some individuals whining about a sequencer? It's 2012. Who uses a hardware sequencer anymore? Everything is done on a computer nowdays.
The last time i used Korg's Sequencer was before 99' on the IX300, since
then i have own every single Korg WS but never used it and never will.

You proved my point. You said you will never use the on-board sequencer, so why are you whining? Why do you want Korg to waste resources on something that you admit you will never use?

There are plenty of excellent easy to use sequencer alternatives already on the market.
I prefer to see Korg use their limited resource to improve other features.

And yes, I'll say it again... real musicians dont need to use sequencers LIVE.
In the studio, yes, I dont have a problem with that. But in a live situation?, no.

I personally feel cheated when I pay good money to go see an act, only to realize that half of the music is either playback or sequenced material. At that point they are no different that a Karaoke act.... ok, maybe a little better (because they know how to program a sequencer).

BasariStudios · Post by **BasariStudios** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:39 am

tmatos75 wrote:I prefer to see Korg use their limited resource to improve other features

You are still wrong...then i prefer not to pay for something i wont use but now
i paid and i want it as it supposed to be, use it or not...as i said, you still dont know
nothing about music...so Sequencing...for you...its only LIVE?

Hahahahaha...

Randelph · Post by **Randelph** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:39 am

It'll be fun to see the price point in the USA.

The price and the keybed for the unweighted versions will be the make/break as far as I'm concerned. Considered the M50 for 10 seconds, but the absolutely shitty quality of the keybed was beyond the pale.

Love the weight!!!!

Saxifraga · Post by **Saxifraga** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:02 am

tmatos75 wrote:Why are some individuals whining about a sequencer? It's 2012. Who uses a hardware sequencer anymore? Everything is done on a computer nowdays. ...

Because the Kronos is a computer and it´s sequencer is a software sequencer. So it´s totally possible to live without another gadget that can crash. The Kronos is marketed as a Workstation not a big soundcard with keys. That´s what Rolands Jupiter-80 is.

Neko · Post by **Neko** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:12 am

Ok so the Krome is gonna be to the Kronos what the M50 was to the M3 ?

Saxifraga · Post by **Saxifraga** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:12 am

cello wrote:There's little point in going on about the Kronos sequencer. Korg didn't do anything for the OASYS community with regard to piano roll, etc, etc and then the M3 came along.

The Kronos Seq isn't going to change, just as it didn't with the OASYS.

I hope the Krome does well for Korg - certainly a good bit of bang for buck all things considered - and it has a better seq than the the Kronos and the OASYS lol

The Krome is not for me but it could help increase the size of the Korg user community world wide which can't be a bad thing.

I think you suffer from a hostage dilemma, having bought a workstation OASYS and gotten a synthesizer. You are fraternizing with the one who holds you captive and making excuses for him. Did you ever complain to Korg directly via email. I did an hour ago. I am feed up with excuses after seening that Krome abomination. I am going into Hulk mode now.

Let´s see how they react, if at all.

tmatos75 · Post by **tmatos75** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:58 am

BasariStudios wrote:
tmatos75 wrote:I prefer to see Korg use their limited resource to improve other features
You are still wrong...then i prefer not to pay for something i wont use but now
i paid and i want it as it supposed to be, use it or not...as i said, you still dont know
nothing about music...so Sequencing...for you...its only LIVE?

Hahahahaha...

??????

Saxifraga · Post by **Saxifraga** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:23 am

Randelph wrote:It'll be fun to see the price point in the USA.

The price and the keybed for the unweighted versions will be the make/break as far as I'm concerned. Considered the M50 for 10 seconds, but the absolutely shitty quality of the keybed was beyond the pale.

Love the weight!!!!

Hmm...

I liked the keybed. Much better than Yamaha or Roland at this price.
But the display quality was shitty.