EXs12 SGX-1 Austrian Piano Demo

MartinHines · Post by **MartinHines** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:37 am

I happened to run across this tonight, a short audio demo of the upcoming EXs12 SGX-1 Austrian Piano

http://soundcloud.com/korg/sets/exs12_a ... iano-demo/

doogler63 · Post by **doogler63** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:08 am

The Austrian Grand Piano sounds very sweet to me and l hope the Legendary Strings are not to far away either, l know that they will be worth waiting for.

Thanks for the posting Martin.

Cheers

Robert

billysynth1 · Post by **billysynth1** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:39 am

Oh, i thought it was a Youtube piece...didnt read carefully enough. I wonder if they are using the new Keybed to perform the music??

Billy

curvebender · Post by **curvebender** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 11:07 am

I really enjoyed the sound of the Austrian Piano from the Soundcloud demo, looking forward to it's release!

It has a small hammer "thump" in the attack portion of the sound that I like very much.

DrPopper · Post by **DrPopper** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:41 pm

Boesendorfer goodness ...hopefully all 97 keys of it

Ksynth · Post by **Ksynth** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:18 pm

That does sound very nice.

jimknopf · Post by **jimknopf** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:40 pm

The Austrian Bright Grand 2 sounds like it will cut through well in band play and in a mix.

And for those who are curious (hardly anyone here):
On the German Korg site it says that the Austrian Grand will appear on Febr. 6th!
Three more days to go.

And yes: the library covers all 97 keys of the original!

sigiriuk · Post by **sigiriuk** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:17 pm

I am sure the Austrian Piano is fantastic. And it must have been made using editor software.

As I suspected, they will not release the end-user editor until they have made some more money off their EXS libraries. (They still advertise the Kronos, on the UK site as coming with a "free" editor).

Becuase, as we all know, we could make our own streaming large pianos using the editor software. And some of us have better sample libraries at home, eg Imperfect Samples.

I previously got "shot down" for making this observation in a different post.................maybe it would be better to examine my quite reasonable observations, and discuss it sensibly as paying customers, because it might persuade Korg to release it.

The knee-jerk fanboy response was most unhelpful, IMO.......

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:33 pm

sigiriuk wrote:I am sure the Austrian Piano is fantastic. And it must have been made using editor software.

As I suspected, they will not release the end-user editor until they have made some more money off their EXS libraries. (They still advertise the Kronos, on the UK site as coming with a "free" editor).

Becuase, as we all know, we could make our own streaming large pianos using the editor software. And some of us have better sample libraries at home, eg Imperfect Samples.

I previously got "shot down" for making this observation in a different post.................maybe it would be better to examine my quite reasonable observations, and discuss it sensibly as paying customers, because it might persuade Korg to release it.

The knee-jerk fanboy response was most unhelpful, IMO.......

I thought earlier editors also didn't have much sampling features, it mostly serves as a way to select all parameters from a computer screen instead of the synth controls.

jimknopf · Post by **jimknopf** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:54 pm

I guess it's nothing but wishful thinking for the present situation to expect that Korg provides sampling with disk streaming for users soon.

Reasons
- a) commercial reason: selling advanced libraries for a device they developed, to make it not only a technical, but also a commercial sucess for Korg, is nothing wrong from my view. I hope they are successful earning money, and invest some of it into development and manpower for the Kronos and later synths.

- b) technical reason: it is naive to think that a device like the Kronos is able to stream all kinds of factory and user streaming data at the same time. SSD streaming is just as limited as processor power is, and Korg will try to avoid situations where (possiby not skillful done and/or not resource related) user libraries might mess up the whole system, with users shouting for support or for advanced software editors of a complex technology they can't handle like specialised Korg staff can.

And back on topic:
looking forward to the Boesendorfer!

jeebustrain · Post by **jeebustrain** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:55 pm

sigiriuk wrote:I am sure the Austrian Piano is fantastic. And it must have been made using editor software.

As I suspected, they will not release the end-user editor until they have made some more money off their EXS libraries. (They still advertise the Kronos, on the UK site as coming with a "free" editor).

Becuase, as we all know, we could make our own streaming large pianos using the editor software. And some of us have better sample libraries at home, eg Imperfect Samples.

I previously got "shot down" for making this observation in a different post.................maybe it would be better to examine my quite reasonable observations, and discuss it sensibly as paying customers, because it might persuade Korg to release it.

The knee-jerk fanboy response was most unhelpful, IMO.......

I'm sure you are talking about me. I'm no fanboy - I'm a realist who makes observations based on actual published data, not forum speculation. Again, I don't know where you are getting your information, but I have yet to see anything that even remotely gives the hint that the editor will allow for users to build their own streaming sample libraries, so I'm going to assume that you just pulled it out of your rear (unless you have some documentation to back it up). Honestly, if I were in charge of the editor at Korg and was actually worried about something like that, I wouldn't even include that functionality in the editor. I'm not saying that it won't be there (because I don't know anymore than you do), but inventing some sort of conspiracy theory around it just sounds kind of stupid, IMO.

MartinHines · Post by **MartinHines** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:42 pm

sigiriuk wrote: As I suspected, they will not release the end-user editor until they have made some more money off their EXS libraries. (They still advertise the Kronos, on the UK site as coming with a "free" editor).

Becuase, as we all know, we could make our own streaming large pianos using the editor software. And some of us have better sample libraries at home, eg Imperfect Samples.

Korg has always had their own internal tools to create sounds. This has nothing to do with the Kronos plug-in/editor. How do you think Korg created the original sounds for the OASYS and Kronos? Not with the Kronos editor.

Also, there are different groups involved. The plug-in is being created by software developers at Korg Japan, whereas content is created by sound designers.

Finally, I highly doubt the Kronos editor will allow you to create sample libraries that stream from the SSD. I would be surprised if Korg ever opened up access to the SSD, since this could have performance and polyphony impacts. Even with the Kronos editor, all user created samples will most likely be loaded into Sample RAM.

Zeroesque · Post by **Zeroesque** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:59 pm

sigiriuk wrote:I am sure the Austrian Piano is fantastic. And it must have been made using editor software.

As I suspected, they will not release the end-user editor until they have made some more money off their EXS libraries. (They still advertise the Kronos, on the UK site as coming with a "free" editor).

Becuase, as we all know, we could make our own streaming large pianos using the editor software. And some of us have better sample libraries at home, eg Imperfect Samples.

I previously got "shot down" for making this observation in a different post.................maybe it would be better to examine my quite reasonable observations, and discuss it sensibly as paying customers, because it might persuade Korg to release it.

The knee-jerk fanboy response was most unhelpful, IMO.......

I think you are overestimating the functionality that the editor software will provide, and then making accusations based upon that. I don't find that to be "quite reasonable" at all.

jimknopf · Post by **jimknopf** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:25 pm

Anybody besides me out there glad that the Boesendorfer is coming?

jick · Post by **jick** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:32 pm

jimknopf wrote:Anybody besides me out there glad that the Boesendorfer is coming?

Oh yes. More awesomeness