Where is the Kronos Editor and Plug-In Editor?

[zengomi]

Patience is time-tested virtue that a venerable company such as Korg might expect of its customers. Well, most of them

Nah, hardly. If patience was the answer they would've been patient and released it all at once. Releasing the keyboard before the upgrades/editor was someone(s) deciding that (after all the "we need money for this project now" numbers are crunched): hmm, if we release this now to get it to market, how much bitching are we going to have to deal with? Ok, that's an acceptable number.

We're only doing what's expected of us, after all.

I see no logic in that argument. Just the impatience and me-firstism that characterizes this age.

[MRedZac]

Patience is time-tested virtue that a venerable company such as Korg might expect of its customers. Well, most of them

If I would pay only 90% of the Kronos price at once, when I received the synth, keeping the rest for the moment, stating "I will pay it 'soon', don't yet know exactly", would Korg wait half a year, and then ask politely if I would be so kind to pay the rest, perhaps until Namm?

And would I answer with the wisdom of ages: "Patience is a time-tested virtue that a venerable customer such as me might expect of his music gear companies. Well, most of them..."???

Yes, Korg would certainly be very patient in this case.

Did you buy your 73 despite the delay (of the promised editor/VST plugin)? I did. I'm a patient fellow.

Did you? Are you?

I ordered Kronos and only found out after, that the promised and so nicely advertised Editor is not released, yet... I felt quite asskicked by this...

[zengomi]

If I would pay only 90% of the Kronos price at once, when I received the synth, keeping the rest for the moment, stating "I will pay it 'soon', don't yet know exactly", would Korg wait half a year, and then ask politely if I would be so kind to pay the rest, perhaps until Namm?

And would I answer with the wisdom of ages: "Patience is a time-tested virtue that a venerable customer such as me might expect of his music gear companies. Well, most of them..."???

Yes, Korg would certainly be very patient in this case.

Did you buy your 73 despite the delay (of the promised editor/VST plugin)? I did. I'm a patient fellow.

Did you? Are you?

I ordered Kronos and only found out after, that the promised and so nicely advertised Editor is not released, yet... I felt quite asskicked by this...

Then how can you possibly think you have a claim?

[irtehyar]

I see no logic in that argument. Just the impatience and me-firstism that characterizes this age.

Then you haven't worked in an industry that has to make those decisions. I do it every day.

[zengomi]

I see no logic in that argument. Just the impatience and me-firstism that characterizes this age.

Then you haven't worked in an industry that has to make those decisions. I do it every day.

The decision to do what? Release something when it's ready to be released?

Sorry, but I find no merit in any of the griping displayed here.

[Lou]

The marketing concept deployed here is on par with an Apple product launch.
Just about everyone in the keyboard audience is waiting patiently, .. the hype the buzz.. I'm sure they are looking to outdo sales from it's initial release. This just may do it too.
I think the editor is going to be more than I've anticipated. Sure looks sexy! They even went as far as reproducing the button Led s..

Looks like the egg is in the nest waiting for hatch! Won't be long now.

[irtehyar]

The decision to do what? Release something when it's ready to be released?

The decision to release something that's incomplete.

Sorry, but I find no merit in any of the griping displayed here.

Sorry, but it's your griping about the griping that I find no merit in. It's simply self-satisfying.

In other news, I found a top secret document that predicts we'll see the release of the editor sometime this month.

[jimknopf]

Patience is time-tested virtue that a venerable company such as Korg might expect of its customers. Well, most of them

If I would pay only 90% of the Kronos price at once, when I received the synth, keeping the rest for the moment, stating "I will pay it 'soon', don't yet know exactly", would Korg wait half a year, and then ask politely if I would be so kind to pay the rest, perhaps until Namm?

And would I answer with the wisdom of ages: "Patience is a time-tested virtue that a venerable customer such as me might expect of his music gear companies. Well, most of them..."???

Yes, Korg would certainly be very patient in this case.

Did you buy your 73 despite the delay (of the promised editor/VST plugin)? I did. I'm a patient fellow.

Did you? Are you?

Zengomi, I will answer your question - after you answered mine.

[zengomi]

The decision to do what? Release something when it's ready to be released?

The decision to release something that's incomplete.

Sorry, but I find no merit in any of the griping displayed here.

Sorry, but it's your griping about the griping that I find no merit in. It's simply self-satisfying.

In other news, I found a top secret document that predicts we'll see the release of the editor sometime this month.

Griping about the griping? How about griping about the griping about the griping? Is there no end to this? Get a grip, on your Kronos, and make something noteworthy.

All levity aside, couldn't this thread be terminated right about now?

[MRedZac]

The decision to do what? Release something when it's ready to be released?

The decision to release something that's incomplete.

Sorry, but I find no merit in any of the griping displayed here.

Sorry, but it's your griping about the griping that I find no merit in. It's simply self-satisfying.

In other news, I found a top secret document that predicts we'll see the release of the editor sometime this month.

Griping about the griping? How about griping about the griping about the griping? Is there no end to this? Get a grip, on your Kronos, and make something noteworthy.

All levity aside, couldn't this thread be terminated right about now?

I wonder, what is wrong with you, Zengomi !? - Sorry, but people here just want to get, what they paid for.

Just imagine, you bought a car with navigation system, but the map materials for this would not have been delivered even 7 months after you got the car - without any visible or understandable reason and sales people, which keep telling you, that it will be delivered soon for sure already for months. How would you react ? - Don´t tell me, you would just sit and wait... Wouldn´t you start to claim ? And this exactly, what is going on here. 1:1.

If this editor will not be delivered latest at the NAMM Show, I´m sure, this will lead into legal measures and I will be one of the first, blaming Korg for this !

I did not pay about 3000 bugs for a "gamechanging syntheziser with editor" to find out, that after I got it, 1/3 of the vested functionality is missing and nobody able to give a clear statement on when it will be delivered... Sorry, but it´s just like that...

[ScoobyDoo555]

OK, I'll bite.

The Editor is merely an addition to the synth. It doesn't stop you from working with the machine, nor does it render the machine useless.


TOTALLY incomparable to a satnav, as that would be like comparing the Kronos without ANY engines.

The editor will appear when it does. Simple.

This is beginning to get tiresome.

[cello]

OK, I'll bite.

The Editor is merely an addition to the synth. It doesn't stop you from working with the machine, nor does it render the machine useless.


TOTALLY incomparable to a satnav, as that would be like comparing the Kronos without ANY engines.

The editor will appear when it does. Simple.

This is beginning to get tiresome.

Indeed! It's very strange how the OASYS having been introduced in 2005 is still used around the world today WITHOUT an editor. Same with the Kronos - it doesn't NEED an editor to work.

Yes, the editor has been promised and so it will be delivered. Korg has too many scars from embittered OASYS users due to broken promises to make the same mistake with Kronos users...

[Rocness]

If you guys are pissed now what until you see Karma 3 for the Motif at Namm , it's absolutely gorgeous .

[jimknopf]

Rocness, Karma is a great thing, and Stephen doing a great job.
But the difference between Karma version two and three still is not my main concern at the moment. Recording with a VSTi and the announced libraries are both further up on my priority list.

So no: no envy left for that.

[blinkofanI]

Is it me that doesn't get what the plugin editor will do? People are talking about ASIO... From what i understand, the plugin editor will be just that, an editor for the Kronos in VST or AU format so you can edit inside your DAW. No audio will go through that. It will bring nothing you can't do right now in Logic or Cubase with the Kronos connected with a MIDI interface, and then the Kronos audio outs connected to your audio interface audio ins.

I could understand if the Kronos had a 2x16 LCD display. But an editor will only allow you to do all you do right now on the Kronos display, only directly on the computer screen with your mouse(or magic trackpad in my case), inside your DAW session.

Now, if the plugin Editor will permit to edit a program while in Combi Mode, with the program's GUI for each timbre, now i will be impressed.

So, if i didn't get it, fix me straigth right now

Blink