Transferring Triton Studio sequences to the Kronos ?

[JPROBERTLA]

I am in the process of transferring 200 sequences from a Triton Studio to the Kronos. I have saved all sequences as SMF type 1 (as instructed by Korg technical support) to a CD formatted in the Triton (the only way you can save them). When I load this CD in to my Apple computer to copy it to a thumb drive, the Apple cannot read the CD. I assume that is because it does not recognize the Triton format. I have access to a PC at work and hope that I can save the CD to a thumb drive with it; but if not-

(1) Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get these sequences from a Triton formatted CD to a thumb drive?

(2) Will the Kronos read the SMF data in Triton format?

(3) If 1 & 2 are NO - what other options are there?

Thanks

[Gargamel314]

#1 - don't really have much experience with the Triton Studio, but I'm thinking either the Triton-formatted CD isn't formatted in UDF format, or the computer doesn't have the right driver to read a UDF CD (probably the Triton's fault).

Also, when I had a Triton Extreme, I used an external CD-RW drive. Any CD that I burned was unuseable until i CLOSED the disk in the Triton (it's a function in the OS). Make sure you do that, because it doesn't do it automatically. That might be why your computer won't read it.

#2 - The Kronos won't read Triton-format SNG files, but it will read SMF - any *.MID files that you have (format 1 will be easiest to work with).

#3 - if all else fails, you can hook the KRONOS's MIDI IN up to the Triton's MIDI out. Enable "Multi-REC" in the sequencer preferences, and arm all the tracks. Set the clock in global mode to External MIDI, and record the sequences that way (very old school solution). It'll sound like garbage while it's recording, but afterwards you can change up all the programs in the Kronos to what they're supposed to be. This i'm sure will take forever with 200 sequences, but it's an option.

Another option would be to use the Triton's floppy drive, and try to find a USB floppy drive, and then you can transfer the sequences to your computer that way, and then to the USB into the Kronos. USB floppy drives are cheap, usually around $20 these days.

[JPROBERTLA]

Since my decision to keep my Triton Studio88 and get a Kronos 61, I have been hard at work documenting and backing up over 200 sequences and program information. In order to best transfer sequences, with a lot of help from Korg product support, this is the solution and the only way I could get it to work:

(1) Load sequences as regular SNG files in the Triton's sequencer.
(2) Save all sequences, one-at-a-time as SMF Type 1 (.MID) files from the sequencer to the Triton's hard drive.
(3) Using the Triton's COPY function, copy the SMF files from the Triton's hard drive to a floppy disc (a CD will no work for some reason).
(4) Copy (drag) the SMF files from the floppy to a folder on the desktop of a Windows XP PC.
(5) Copy (drag) the files from the folder on the desktop to a thumb drive.

You now have SMF sequence files that can be loaded into the Kronos. You will still have to select Kronos PCGs, redo the effects and adjust the volumes; essentially remix the sequence, but at least the song data, which in my case is 15 years of hard work, is preserved.

[alantunucci]

Redo the songs is not an option? You could get inspired by Kronos and try new things, make better versions, etc. I have about 30~40 songs in M3 and I decided to remake ("remake" or "redo"? Sorry, my english is poor) them, I want take advantage of the superior power from kronos.

Just an idea

[brianv4]

I have the same trouble with the CD drive. If you can format the CD as UDF with your computer first, it will work. Long time ago I bought a SCSI to Firewire adaptor. Always had trouble using it on Windows but, it works great on OSX! I can drag from the Triton to the Mac then right over to the Kronos. Shame Korg can't keep their SEQ format the same, I mean it's midi and exclusive data, what's the problem Korg? I have close to 1000 songs to rework, c'mon!

[ronnfigg]

I have formatted standard CD-Rs in the past and my PC would read them. CD-RWs always seemed to be a problem.

[ronnfigg]

PS- floppy on a PC? Haven't seen one of those in years, but there are USB versions.

[nino33]

Hi there
how do you exactly do what you mentioned please !
until i CLOSED the disk in the Triton (it's a function in the OS)

Cheers

#1 - don't really have much experience with the Triton Studio, but I'm thinking either the Triton-formatted CD isn't formatted in UDF format, or the computer doesn't have the right driver to read a UDF CD (probably the Triton's fault).

Also, when I had a Triton Extreme, I used an external CD-RW drive. Any CD that I burned was unuseable until i CLOSED the disk in the Triton (it's a function in the OS). Make sure you do that, because it doesn't do it automatically. That might be why your computer won't read it.

#2 - The Kronos won't read Triton-format SNG files, but it will read SMF - any *.MID files that you have (format 1 will be easiest to work with).

#3 - if all else fails, you can hook the KRONOS's MIDI IN up to the Triton's MIDI out. Enable "Multi-REC" in the sequencer preferences, and arm all the tracks. Set the clock in global mode to External MIDI, and record the sequences that way (very old school solution). It'll sound like garbage while it's recording, but afterwards you can change up all the programs in the Kronos to what they're supposed to be. This i'm sure will take forever with 200 sequences, but it's an option.

Another option would be to use the Triton's floppy drive, and try to find a USB floppy drive, and then you can transfer the sequences to your computer that way, and then to the USB into the Kronos. USB floppy drives are cheap, usually around $20 these days.

[ronnfigg]

Nino- your question is too vague.