WARNING : Do not sell your Oasys !

Discussion relating to the Korg Oasys Workstation.

Moderators: Sharp, X-Trade, Pepperpotty, karmathanever

Rocness

WARNING : Do not sell your Oasys !

Post by Rocness »

Do not sell your Oasys !
The Oasys will be one of the most sought after synths of all time in about 7 to 8 years . Trust :idea:
One reason why is the build quality beautifully done .
Now you fill in the rest . :arrow:
billysynth1
Platinum Member
Posts: 1148
Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2005 5:09 am
Location: Australia/Melbourne

Post by billysynth1 »

-
It might, or it might not. With synths of the 80s you never had replacement equivelants...there was no Jupiter 8 replacement equivelant., so now JP8s are expensive because people want that warm sound. With the Oasys you have an exact duplicate, and better replacement, the Kronos. So, who knows what demand there will be for the Oasys on the second hand market in 10 years - ?

However, people are chasing that analogue warm sound, these current synths are all digital, although, when the Adromeda A6 production stopped thier price soared on ebay within a year. I think its hard for us to predict whether these current digital synths will be in demands down the road as the: prophet 5s, OBXa, JP8 etc

I'm looking forward to getting my Kronos and testing the Jupiter 80, which I might also buy. But then there is the Solaris lol

Billy
Yamaha C1 Grand Piano.
Korg Oasys 88, Jupiter 80
Kronos 88, V Synth GT
I am a student of classical piano...I am not a classical pianist.
User avatar
Sharp
Site Admin
Posts: 18221
Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2002 12:29 am
Location: Ireland
Contact:

Post by Sharp »

I don't think I could sell my OASYS even if it became a classic in the future. I can see a day when it becomes useless to me in the Studio as new keyboards far more advanced will be released. When that happens though both my Wife and I are in agreement that we would get rid of the Yamaha family Digital Piano and replace it with the OASYS.

Regards
Sharp.
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="530"> <tr> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" width="267" height="94"> <a href="https://shop.korg.com/kronossoundlibraries"><img name="Image110" src="http://www.irishacts.com/images/Image11_1x1.png" width="267" height="94" border="0" alt="KORG Store - Irish Acts"></a></td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" width="263" height="94"> <a href="http://www.irishacts.com"><img name="Image111" src="http://www.irishacts.com/images/Image11_1x2.png" width="263" height="94" border="0" alt="Irish Acts Online Store"></a></td> </tr> </table>
TonyGen
Full Member
Posts: 193
Joined: Wed May 19, 2010 1:11 pm

Re: WARNING : Do not sell your Oasys !

Post by TonyGen »

Rocness wrote:Do not sell your Oasys !
The Oasys will be one of the most sought after synths of all time in about 7 to 8 years . Trust :idea:
One reason why is the build quality beautifully done .
Now you fill in the rest . :arrow:
Despite the rubbish sequencer I won't argue it's an amazing DAW. I doubt it will be worth much in 7-8 years time. I suspect most musos will be using PC/MAC software DAW's that will be several generations better than what's currently available by then.

Can't agree at all about the build quality. Those button switches should last an awful lot longer. And I had to have a faulty screen terminal re-made within 12 months. I had an NED Synclavier II ORK until recently - now that's what I call build quality - over 30 years old and every button worked perfectly 8)
User avatar
Charlie
Platinum Member
Posts: 997
Joined: Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:33 am
Location: Austria

Post by Charlie »

Tony, I agree - and I'll keep my O for the time being. :wink:
vicz
Posts: 35
Joined: Sun Feb 01, 2009 11:56 am
Location: UK

Post by vicz »

Just saw one 88 fail to sell the other day for £2250 on ebay - some people must really want a Kronos!
TonyGen
Full Member
Posts: 193
Joined: Wed May 19, 2010 1:11 pm

Post by TonyGen »

vicz wrote:Just saw one 88 fail to sell the other day for £2250 on ebay - some people must really want a Kronos!
We should all feel a great sense of pride that our hard earned top dollars contributed to Korg re-incarnating the unsupported Oasys in the completely dissimilar form of Kronos.

An Oasys 88 unsold at £2250 ????..... :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

At this rate it'll soon cost more to buy the never-to-be discounted MOD-7 than an Oasys itself..... :!:
User avatar
cello
Platinum Member
Posts: 2146
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:36 am
Location: Glasgow, UK

Post by cello »

Saw that too - in the last two weeks:

Sold
1 O88 @ £2400

Not Sold
1 O76 @ £2,299
1 O88 @ £2,250
1 O88 @ £2,400 (another one)
2 O88 @ £3,000

Draw your own conclusions...
Plugged in: Fantom 8, Jupiter-X, Jupiter 80, System-8, JD-XA, V-Synth GTv2, FA-06, SE-02, JU-06A, TR-09, VT-4, Go:Livecast, Rubix44, Shure SM7b, Push2, Ableton 11 Suite, Sibelius, KRK Rokit 5,
User avatar
Kontrol49
Platinum Member
Posts: 1280
Joined: Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:03 pm

Post by Kontrol49 »

TonyGen wrote:An Oasys 88 unsold at £2250 ????..... :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
At this rate it'll soon cost more to buy the never-to-be discounted MOD-7 than an Oasys itself..... :!:

Well put yourself in a buyers shoes.....

A secondhand Oasys with no further support and no warranty or a Kronos with more engines and warranty and a handful of OS updates at minimum,for perhaps just a little bit more financially..

If I was in the market for either I know where my cash would be....

Korg have not only Screwed Oasys owners once over with forgetting us,but twice...Kronos has seriously damaged Oasys values now,(I guess we all could have forcast that)unless your prepared to sell it for peanuts...the least Korg could do would be to give those who haven't purchased the additional engines codes,away for free.

Certainly for me,the SV1 was the last sum of cash they'll get out of me,as much as they've created and given so much inspiration to my music,my love affair affair with them is well and truly over... I'm not sour nor a disgruntled Oasys owner it will still be used within my setup,its just that I've found what I need in a workstation in another Brand..its not down to their lack of support to Oasys but the sheer ignorance or arrogance towards a workstations Sequencing abilities inside the box,and yet again its been shown with Kronos...
--Korg Nautilus~~Korg Modwave--Korg SV-1-Korg Wavestate--
TonyGen
Full Member
Posts: 193
Joined: Wed May 19, 2010 1:11 pm

Post by TonyGen »

Kontrol49 wrote:
Certainly for me,the SV1 was the last sum of cash they'll get out of me,as much as they've created and given so much inspiration to my music,my love affair affair with them is well and truly over...
They've had it with me too....
Dany
Senior Member
Posts: 352
Joined: Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:26 am

Re: WARNING : Do not sell your Oasys !

Post by Dany »

Rocness wrote:Do not sell your Oasys ! ...
I will never ever sell even one of my two 88-OASYS'es. Kronos is nothing but an OASYS plus an outstanding Digital Piano (I am a synth player first and not a pianist) combined in a quite cheap and non durable hardware design. Kronos offers by far the best sound for the money on the current hardware synth market, but not the best hardware and not the best user interface for serious sound design, which is still unmatched on the OASYS... and the outstanding RH2 Keyboard of the OASYS-88 seems to be of a much higher quality than the cheaper, but still fine, RH3 keyboard from Kronos. I really prefer the RH2 feeling...It is just sad that the OASYS never received the EP-1, MDS Electric Piano, which does not depend on the new streaming technology from Kronos and would therefore run on the OASYS as well...

-
Rocness

Re: WARNING : Do not sell your Oasys !

Post by Rocness »

Dany wrote:
Rocness wrote:Do not sell your Oasys ! ...
I will never ever sell even one of my two 88-OASYS'es. Kronos is nothing but an OASYS plus an outstanding Digital Piano (I am a synth player first and not a pianist) combined in a quite cheap and non durable hardware design. Kronos offers by far the best sound for the money on the current hardware synth market, but not the best hardware and not the best user interface for serious sound design, which is still unmatched on the OASYS... and the outstanding RH2 Keyboard of the OASYS-88 seems to be of a much higher quality than the cheaper, but still fine, RH3 keyboard from Kronos. I really prefer the RH2 feeling...It is just sad that the OASYS never received the EP-1, MDS Electric Piano, which does not depend on the new streaming technology from Kronos and would therefore run on the OASYS as well...

-
This post made me :) .

The Oasys was made out of love the Kronos was made out of fear .
Love last's longer than fear .

Just look at your Oasys with it's beautiful huge touch screen , 8 huge real pad triggers and led lights all around and metal casing going across the whole frame . This is quality my friend . Some people don't know a good thing when they see it .

The problem with Kronos is that Korg didn't fix anything users have been asking them to fix for years .

Why on earth is the same horrible sequencer there on the Kronos ? The users of the Kronos will eventually get very frustrated with Korg once they find out that they have to copy and past every single effect to make a combi or to layer programs . At some point you have to ask yourself what's the point of having 9 synthesis engines if I can't access all of them at will .
At some point Kronos users are going to say wait a second you mean to tell me if I want to layer a sound from this engine with a sound from another engine I have to go back and copy every single effect just so it will sound the same way I demoed it in program mode . Instant inspiration killer

Imagine your doing a 16 part song or a song with 16 different instruments , do you know how long it's going to take you to copy the effects for all 16 instruments , by the time you do that you get frustrated with your new Kronos and say well s**t at least in my DAW the sounds are ready to go all the time .

But the King of it all , that's really going to piss Kronos users off is when they start to find out what the Roland jupiter 80 really can do .

I luv my Oasys , sometime I just use it as a fuckin mixer with all the IO on the back plus adat and mic pre's I plug all kinda s**t in there it's great .
The pad triggers are the best because they help me learn and make up new chord progression easy with no hassle . To me having no pads on the Kronos kills the whole Oasys like experience , what the hell where they thinking , O I know the economy aka fear .

So I guess what I should have said at the beginning is the The Oasys was made out of love and the Kronos was made out of the economy .
User avatar
cello
Platinum Member
Posts: 2146
Joined: Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:36 am
Location: Glasgow, UK

Post by cello »

Good post Rocness - but of course this is all history!

I, like many others, still feel a dark element of being betrayed by Korg through the release of the Kronos. I appreciate this is an emotional response, however I feel what I feel.

Most importantly however I think the Kronos concept will ultimately back-fire on Korg. Not because the Kronos is not good - of course it is; it's an OASYS! But Korg have just multiplied their user base x-fold. But in reality that user base is using an OASYS in different clothes.

So - the issues that have been well documented and discussed on these forums by OASYS users, remain with the Kronos, hence there is going to be a whole lot of demanding and skilled people who complain about their Kronos.

And they will add a new, stronger dimension... OASYS users brought up new issues. Kronos users will highlight old issues and ask "if Korg knew about these problems, why on earth did they not sort them in the Kronos?".
Plugged in: Fantom 8, Jupiter-X, Jupiter 80, System-8, JD-XA, V-Synth GTv2, FA-06, SE-02, JU-06A, TR-09, VT-4, Go:Livecast, Rubix44, Shure SM7b, Push2, Ableton 11 Suite, Sibelius, KRK Rokit 5,
User avatar
Kontrol49
Platinum Member
Posts: 1280
Joined: Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:03 pm

Post by Kontrol49 »

:lol:

I've enjoyed all this anticipation and hype that the Kronos has gained,and loved seeing the posts from those who have preorded and there thoughts and queries,its kind of gratifying to see that so many have been suckered into it given its probably the same group who also slated the Oasys for being an overpriced waste of cash or not worthy of such a high price,however Kronos was given a facelift far worse than Oasys and simply just 2 additional engines,which considering how technology developments are in this day and age Korg are simply recycling this s**t and they are happy to be buying old technology,infact even the additional technology is available in products they released prior to it,I kind of feel humble that most of us already have been there done it,the only lesson Korg seem to have learned is that of the way its marketed in terms of support and the way in which they completely forgot its heritage....

I shall enjoy as much all the complaints and "whats missing in Kronos" threads come reeling in to,which have already started i beleive....and you just know the Sequencer is going to be top of the pile....so who have actually been the biggest fools....Oasys owners or Kronos buyers....
--Korg Nautilus~~Korg Modwave--Korg SV-1-Korg Wavestate--
User avatar
Davidb
Platinum Member
Posts: 1592
Joined: Mon Oct 21, 2002 2:43 pm
Contact:

Post by Davidb »

Kontrol49 wrote: I kind of feel humble that most of us already have been there done it,the only lesson Korg seem to have learned is that of the way its marketed in terms of support and the way in which they completely forgot its heritage....

I shall enjoy as much all the complaints and "whats missing in Kronos" threads come reeling in to,which have already started i beleive....and you just know the Sequencer is going to be top of the pile....so who have actually been the biggest fools....Oasys owners or Kronos buyers....
Interesting question, yes.
I guess we only have to wait and see. :wink:
Regards.
D.
Post Reply

Return to “Korg Oasys”