I want to convert my set from PSR9000 to KORG PA3x.
Is there a way, not only the styles. I want to convert the samples from the drumkits and sounds.
They are in format called .VIC
*EMC STYLE WORKS is abit expensive for converting the styles, 199euro i think?
converting YAMAHA PSR9000 to KORG PA3x
Moderators: Sharp, X-Trade, Pepperpotty, karmathanever
converting YAMAHA PSR9000 to KORG PA3x
// Matthew
"Its not how good you are, its the impression you leave behind."
"Its not how good you are, its the impression you leave behind."
I have the Universal Edition of Style Works so if you want styles converted, you can send them to me and I'll just run them though the program for you.
With regards to your VIC file, EMC only converts styles, it doesn't convert samples so it's extremely likely EMC won't even look at your VIC file let alone attempt to convert it.
I suspect you will have to look for some custom built Pa9000 to WAVE converter. I've a lot of conversion software like Awave, ESC and others, and none of them support VIC.
Regards
Sharp.
With regards to your VIC file, EMC only converts styles, it doesn't convert samples so it's extremely likely EMC won't even look at your VIC file let alone attempt to convert it.
I suspect you will have to look for some custom built Pa9000 to WAVE converter. I've a lot of conversion software like Awave, ESC and others, and none of them support VIC.
Regards
Sharp.
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Dikikeys
I am not sure you want to hear this, but the odds of being able to do this acceptably (I imagine you want it to sound as close as possible) is next to zero.
You are talking about a herculean amount of work! Think about it for a second. You are essentially wanting to sample an entire arranger, every sound, every drum sound assembled into every kit (if the set is big enough, I doubt you even know which sounds and kits you have used, so this means most of them!). Not only do you have to multi-sample them, you then have to recreate the envelopes and programming and effects.
This is simply beyond the scope of anybody. I have never heard of anyone trying to duplicate an entire arranger's (or WS's) soundset that actually succeeded. A sound here or there, maybe even a kit, yes, but an entire keyboard? Nope.
There comes a time, when you make a move to a MUCH more advanced keyboard, that you simply have to re-do your work. After all, why are you making the move to the PA3X if you want to sound IDENTICAL to an arranger you already have? You gain the benefit of sounding fresh and new to your audience, you stimulate yourself as well, and you stand a good chance of coming out of it much improved.
After all, that's why you bought it, isn't it?
I don't change arrangers very fast either. My G1000 was gigged for about ten years, my G70 for nearly the same, and now I anticipate my BK-9 going for at LEAST that long (I hope they bury me with it!). But each time I changed, I re-did EVERYTHING. Took me weeks, sure. Months... Mind you, I kept my old arranger until the new one was ready to go. But each time I did this, my entire act came out sounding fresh and new. I found better (or different but as good) styles, I re-did all my sequences to best use all the new sounds and capabilities, and generally tried to leverage the new stuff as much as possible.
I certainly didn't want to have dropped a few thousand on a new arranger, and then end up sounding the same! I know this sounds like a LOT of work... It is! But, you seem to be able to hang onto one arranger for a very long time, like me. Take comfort in the thought that you will only have to do this once every ten years or so...
You are talking about a herculean amount of work! Think about it for a second. You are essentially wanting to sample an entire arranger, every sound, every drum sound assembled into every kit (if the set is big enough, I doubt you even know which sounds and kits you have used, so this means most of them!). Not only do you have to multi-sample them, you then have to recreate the envelopes and programming and effects.
This is simply beyond the scope of anybody. I have never heard of anyone trying to duplicate an entire arranger's (or WS's) soundset that actually succeeded. A sound here or there, maybe even a kit, yes, but an entire keyboard? Nope.
There comes a time, when you make a move to a MUCH more advanced keyboard, that you simply have to re-do your work. After all, why are you making the move to the PA3X if you want to sound IDENTICAL to an arranger you already have? You gain the benefit of sounding fresh and new to your audience, you stimulate yourself as well, and you stand a good chance of coming out of it much improved.
After all, that's why you bought it, isn't it?
I don't change arrangers very fast either. My G1000 was gigged for about ten years, my G70 for nearly the same, and now I anticipate my BK-9 going for at LEAST that long (I hope they bury me with it!). But each time I changed, I re-did EVERYTHING. Took me weeks, sure. Months... Mind you, I kept my old arranger until the new one was ready to go. But each time I did this, my entire act came out sounding fresh and new. I found better (or different but as good) styles, I re-did all my sequences to best use all the new sounds and capabilities, and generally tried to leverage the new stuff as much as possible.
I certainly didn't want to have dropped a few thousand on a new arranger, and then end up sounding the same! I know this sounds like a LOT of work... It is! But, you seem to be able to hang onto one arranger for a very long time, like me. Take comfort in the thought that you will only have to do this once every ten years or so...
Sharp, I appreciate that alot. I will collect my styles and send them to you.
Ive solved the VIC files at same time as I posted the topic. I converted the files from PSR to tyros TVN with a yamaha program tool and then opend them in Awave.
I also managed to exported every sample if in case I would lose some quality in converting.
Ive solved the VIC files at same time as I posted the topic. I converted the files from PSR to tyros TVN with a yamaha program tool and then opend them in Awave.
I also managed to exported every sample if in case I would lose some quality in converting.
Sharp wrote:I have the Universal Edition of Style Works so if you want styles converted, you can send them to me and I'll just run them though the program for you.
With regards to your VIC file, EMC only converts styles, it doesn't convert samples so it's extremely likely EMC won't even look at your VIC file let alone attempt to convert it.
I suspect you will have to look for some custom built Pa9000 to WAVE converter. I've a lot of conversion software like Awave, ESC and others, and none of them support VIC.
Regards
Sharp.
// Matthew
"Its not how good you are, its the impression you leave behind."
"Its not how good you are, its the impression you leave behind."
Chill bro haha!
I have already exported all my own samples (they are not bad).
I know what drumkits I use and not. I already have them sampled in top quality. its one drumkit mostly (kicks, snares, highats, crash, toms, tamburin) all layers sorted out, does not take mutch space in my Pa3x after compressing them. I would say in my opinion some yamaha drum still are better then Korg pa3x. And I dont even use the internal drums anyhow in my set I use now in pa3x.
Im sorry I was unclear and made you write all that unnecessarily. But thanks for your input!
Regards
Anyhow, I made alot of work on thoose styles, I just need the parametras from it to be converted, and then I will edit alittle in pa3x. Combining that set with my set in pa3x. Then I have a masterpiece.
I have already exported all my own samples (they are not bad).
I know what drumkits I use and not. I already have them sampled in top quality. its one drumkit mostly (kicks, snares, highats, crash, toms, tamburin) all layers sorted out, does not take mutch space in my Pa3x after compressing them. I would say in my opinion some yamaha drum still are better then Korg pa3x. And I dont even use the internal drums anyhow in my set I use now in pa3x.
Im sorry I was unclear and made you write all that unnecessarily. But thanks for your input!
Regards
Anyhow, I made alot of work on thoose styles, I just need the parametras from it to be converted, and then I will edit alittle in pa3x. Combining that set with my set in pa3x. Then I have a masterpiece.
Dikikeys wrote:I am not sure you want to hear this, but the odds of being able to do this acceptably (I imagine you want it to sound as close as possible) is next to zero.
You are talking about a herculean amount of work! Think about it for a second. You are essentially wanting to sample an entire arranger, every sound, every drum sound assembled into every kit (if the set is big enough, I doubt you even know which sounds and kits you have used, so this means most of them!). Not only do you have to multi-sample them, you then have to recreate the envelopes and programming and effects.
This is simply beyond the scope of anybody. I have never heard of anyone trying to duplicate an entire arranger's (or WS's) soundset that actually succeeded. A sound here or there, maybe even a kit, yes, but an entire keyboard? Nope.
There comes a time, when you make a move to a MUCH more advanced keyboard, that you simply have to re-do your work. After all, why are you making the move to the PA3X if you want to sound IDENTICAL to an arranger you already have? You gain the benefit of sounding fresh and new to your audience, you stimulate yourself as well, and you stand a good chance of coming out of it much improved.
After all, that's why you bought it, isn't it?
I don't change arrangers very fast either. My G1000 was gigged for about ten years, my G70 for nearly the same, and now I anticipate my BK-9 going for at LEAST that long (I hope they bury me with it!). But each time I changed, I re-did EVERYTHING. Took me weeks, sure. Months... Mind you, I kept my old arranger until the new one was ready to go. But each time I did this, my entire act came out sounding fresh and new. I found better (or different but as good) styles, I re-did all my sequences to best use all the new sounds and capabilities, and generally tried to leverage the new stuff as much as possible.
I certainly didn't want to have dropped a few thousand on a new arranger, and then end up sounding the same! I know this sounds like a LOT of work... It is! But, you seem to be able to hang onto one arranger for a very long time, like me. Take comfort in the thought that you will only have to do this once every ten years or so...
// Matthew
"Its not how good you are, its the impression you leave behind."
"Its not how good you are, its the impression you leave behind."
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Dikikeys
No problem fResH_
From the way your post was worded, it seemed you wanted to do the whole thing. Yes, a few drumkits and assorted stuff is not that big a deal. I simply remember the Mediastation guy trying to sample a whole Tyros so that you could play Yamaha styles on one and it supposedly sound the same...
It was a fiasco!
I LOVE getting a new arranger, but boy! The work to leverage it to its best after being so familiar with the previous one sure makes me try to remain with one for a LONG time!
I hope you and your PA3Xpro are happy for as long as you have been with that 9000pro. Did you have it from new? That's got to have been quite a while, yes?
From the way your post was worded, it seemed you wanted to do the whole thing. Yes, a few drumkits and assorted stuff is not that big a deal. I simply remember the Mediastation guy trying to sample a whole Tyros so that you could play Yamaha styles on one and it supposedly sound the same...
It was a fiasco!
I LOVE getting a new arranger, but boy! The work to leverage it to its best after being so familiar with the previous one sure makes me try to remain with one for a LONG time!
I hope you and your PA3Xpro are happy for as long as you have been with that 9000pro. Did you have it from new? That's got to have been quite a while, yes?
Re: Sharp
I didn't get any PM.fResH_ wrote:Hi Sharp, thanks again. I just posted a PM to you with one test style.
Regards
Sharp
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Re: Sharp
True, I accidently PM wrong person. Now you got it
Sharp wrote:I didn't get any PM.fResH_ wrote:Hi Sharp, thanks again. I just posted a PM to you with one test style.
Regards
Sharp
// Matthew
"Its not how good you are, its the impression you leave behind."
"Its not how good you are, its the impression you leave behind."
Yea true, I have to practice on my english harder i know! haha
Haha thats insane, better to just buy the keyboard.
Yepp, you know what Im feeling then. I had it since 2002 and it still is in its best days. It sound very good till today. Can compete with alot of newer keyboards and it stills sounds great. Even for being so old. It was a monster at its time, the tyros embryo.
The roland g1000 was also a great keyboard. I have a friend that still uses his at least for 10 years he also haha. I like the old stuff. :/
I still use my old Roland E40-or. And it has some great sounds in it.
Haha thats insane, better to just buy the keyboard.
Yepp, you know what Im feeling then. I had it since 2002 and it still is in its best days. It sound very good till today. Can compete with alot of newer keyboards and it stills sounds great. Even for being so old. It was a monster at its time, the tyros embryo.
The roland g1000 was also a great keyboard. I have a friend that still uses his at least for 10 years he also haha. I like the old stuff. :/
I still use my old Roland E40-or. And it has some great sounds in it.
Dikikeys wrote:No problem fResH_
From the way your post was worded, it seemed you wanted to do the whole thing. Yes, a few drumkits and assorted stuff is not that big a deal. I simply remember the Mediastation guy trying to sample a whole Tyros so that you could play Yamaha styles on one and it supposedly sound the same...
It was a fiasco!
I LOVE getting a new arranger, but boy! The work to leverage it to its best after being so familiar with the previous one sure makes me try to remain with one for a LONG time!
I hope you and your PA3Xpro are happy for as long as you have been with that 9000pro. Did you have it from new? That's got to have been quite a while, yes?
// Matthew
"Its not how good you are, its the impression you leave behind."
"Its not how good you are, its the impression you leave behind."
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cristi_pa1xpro
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I already done that.
Thanks anyway.
Thanks anyway.
cristi_pa1xpro wrote:Vic-Tvn: http://download.yamaha.com/search/detai ... t_id=31588 ,Tvn-Kmp:Awawe Studio
// Matthew
"Its not how good you are, its the impression you leave behind."
"Its not how good you are, its the impression you leave behind."
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rikkisbears
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Hi,
If you end up with any that haven't converted too well thru EMC, the other option may be doing it via the midifile to style function in the keyboard.
It's been a long while since I had a psr 9000, but this is the way I converted some of my psr 1500 styles.
Using PC a sequencer
If you change the extension on the psr style from .sty ? To .mid it should turn it automatically into a midifile. Do it only on a copy because you can't change it back.
You then have to swap the midi channels 9 and 11 around, the bass and percussion channels are the opposite of korg.
You have to change the yamaha markers ie variations , fills etc to suit Korg.
If there are any tracks on channels other than 9 to 16 they are probably for the minor intro / ending. These tracks along with a copy of the percussion and drums need to be moved to the end of the midifile and the markers put in.
You basically now have a midifile of the style which can be imported into the korg style maker.
Lot of work, just depends how important the style is to you.
Read up on how to import midifile into style maker, markers etc.
If you end up with any that haven't converted too well thru EMC, the other option may be doing it via the midifile to style function in the keyboard.
It's been a long while since I had a psr 9000, but this is the way I converted some of my psr 1500 styles.
Using PC a sequencer
If you change the extension on the psr style from .sty ? To .mid it should turn it automatically into a midifile. Do it only on a copy because you can't change it back.
You then have to swap the midi channels 9 and 11 around, the bass and percussion channels are the opposite of korg.
You have to change the yamaha markers ie variations , fills etc to suit Korg.
If there are any tracks on channels other than 9 to 16 they are probably for the minor intro / ending. These tracks along with a copy of the percussion and drums need to be moved to the end of the midifile and the markers put in.
You basically now have a midifile of the style which can be imported into the korg style maker.
Lot of work, just depends how important the style is to you.
Read up on how to import midifile into style maker, markers etc.
best wishes
Rikki
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Re: Sharp
Sorry for the delay. Just sent that file to you by email.fResH_ wrote:Hi Sharp, thanks again. I just posted a PM to you with one test style.
Sharp.
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Re: Sharp
Thanks SHarp!
Sharp wrote:Sorry for the delay. Just sent that file to you by email.fResH_ wrote:Hi Sharp, thanks again. I just posted a PM to you with one test style.
Sharp.
// Matthew
"Its not how good you are, its the impression you leave behind."
"Its not how good you are, its the impression you leave behind."