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Studiologic Sledge V2 - Off Topic? Maybe not!

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I've had my Sledge (quite an underrated VA) for a while now, and I've been waiting patiently for news of an OS update as there's a few bugs to iron out :roll:

Just had news from Studiologic that V2.0 will be available "soon".

Apart from the hopeful bug fixes, V2.0 will include Waldorf's SL Sample Option (Free!).

Here's what I didn't expect… It loads and plays Korg/Kronos KMP files!

Now then, that is going to be mighty handy.
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Studiologic Sledge....

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If only Studiologic would look back to the days of the Elka MK line and add to it then we would really see the other big companies stand up and take notice. The Sledge is underrated, but didn't know it could play KMP files. Interesting...
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Post by Hugo »

Really? That sounds awesome
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Got A sledge V2 button fest on order.

Hope it jives well with my KingKorg

Not many good sledge vids out there, small user base i guess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XfdHwpuX2Y

A studiowotsit what ?
http://www.studiologic-music.com/sledge-2.html

If you thought the kingkorg was suspect in the colour department u aint seen the sledge...guaranteed to hammer your eyes !
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Major improvements made... FAIR PRICE

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Great they increased the Polyphony from 8 voices to 24 and lowered the price!... only 8 voices was the deal breaker for me and they didn't stop fixin there: "Auto Dual mode:" now it can play two sounds at the same time in Split or Layer mode... Combi mode with some tweeks;-)

But here's a small part of the V2 I found flipping though 18 minutes of some guy twisting knobs and pushing buttons showing it's potential where the guy starts making a "sound" at: 1:22 that lasts a bit to 2:44 and then finds another one at 7:43 where I wanted jump into the computer and grab it... I find synth demos rather frustrating unless I'm doing it. Like watching someone flipping through TV channels passing by the good channels to find what they like. I like what I heard taking off @ 1:22...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne0l8i4v20Q

And at 15:13 it starts to come out again but I can't watch anymore... I just know I'd really like one now after they improved what bothered me. Only thing this board is missing worthy of complaint relative to the observer standing on the ground is a is a good pilot. This ship has some real potential.

Congratulations kkorgian.... have fun using logic in your studio to play with your Studiologic. Lucky guy you is. The engine is by Waldorf working with Studiologic... great people and IMO it has a real nice sounding personality.
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Post by skinmechanic »

The Studiosledge isn't this basically the Waldorf Blofeld in a different casing with more real time control, even now with the sample option in V2.0 which is the same design and spec as the one offered in the Blofeld keyboards.
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Nope, it doesn't sound the same as Blofeld at all. Actually sounds somewhat worse, less headroom, more plasticky (IMHO, YMMV).
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You can't stop evolution...

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skinmechanic wrote:The Studiosledge isn't this basically the Waldorf Blofeld in a different casing with more real time control, even now with the sample option in V2.0 which is the same design and spec as the one offered in the Blofeld keyboards.
The Blofeld came about because Joachim Flor who was one of Waldorf's former sales representatives invested money to build a new company with the same name and most of the important people involved with the previous Waldorf company. The Studiologic Sledge and Slege V2 came about from Studiologic getting involved with the 2nd Waldorf company to create the Sledge and there seems to be some agreements to keep the Blofeld marketable and not put out of business by the Sledge. To upgrade the original Sledge to match the V2 it costs $100 that goes to Waldorf. The Blofeld has a weighted synth action that’s a better feeling keybed than the the original unweighted keybed of the Sledge and I’m sure Fatar/Studiologic makes both. Sweetwater says it uses the Fatar TP-9 keybed but it must be the TP-9S (synth) that comes weighted or non-weighted. Key weights make a big difference but add weight too and personally I like the 18.3lb weight of the Sledge that’s only 3.3 lbs more than my much smaller M50.

The first thing I noticed is the Sledge has balanced ¼ outputs based on package deals sold with balanced cables for the Sledge where the same company includes non-balanced cables for the Blofeld. If it really has balanced outputs then I’m inclined to think it’s newer generation audio out section is of higher quality. To see if it was a typo (and the pictures of the balanced 1/4in cables wrong too) I looked up the Sledge V2 specs on Studiologics website and was surprised to see all it says is “Stereo line output” and fails to even mention it has two sets of outputs vs the Blofeld’s single stereo unbalanced output. Such an omission seems deliberate. Looking around I noticed other omissions not mentioned. The V2 is already on V2.1 and reading posts its obvious Studiologic is putting a lot of energy into improving the Sledge, one of the advantages of having few instruments in development.

The Sledge has a built in power supply and a host of better features than the Blofeld like midi out which for me is a basic need. I see some people sold their Blofelds to get the original Sledge and it seems to be a one way street, and with the Sledge V2 the improvements have taken the Sledge to another level. It’s sound quality based on peoples statements is generally appreciated as much as the Blofeld with some refinement some will appreciate and some won’t and some describe as being more articulate. I’ve never played either but listening to them via the Internet the preset sounds on the older Blofeld to my ears sound better than the Sledge’s, but listening to people create new sounds on both it seems like the Sledge V2 gets “there” quicker and easier.

Whatever perceived differences there are regarding the “sound” difference between the two, the interface of the Sledge V2 IMO floors the Blofeld and that preference is made evident by the high prices Roland JD 800’s are selling for on E Bay. It’s controls use potentiometers rather than rotary encoders and everything is in the right place.

The Sledge V2 can load XML: Sample Sets in human and machine readable XML format, the format used to save sample sets, KMP: sample programs in Korg format, and WPC: Waldorf Preset Content, but these files cannot be edited…..LOL

I hate to say it…. but IMO Studiologic can’t hide enough features on the improved Sledge V2 to save the Blofeld that was designed to save money by leaving out what the Sledge V2 has. For the cost of what I paid for my M50…. I try not to think about it and the Sledge V2 has a feature some buying keyboards in this price range may have forgotten even exists: aftertouch.
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Post by Broadwave »

John FYI,

You can access extra filter modes via external control of CC68 :wink:

Notch 24dB - Data 7
Notch 12dB - Data 8
Comb+ Data 9
Comb- Data 10
PPG VCF - Data 11
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Post by John Hendry »

That's awesome... I have a bunch of great pedals I collected over the years I need to be using to explore what I can do with them... but been putting my time into other "music related" research. This would be a great board to go back over the basics of synthesis in a simpler format. I used to be an Elka/Fatar dealer and could probably get a good price on one so it's top on the list as my next keyboard fix to fill in a void of what I don't have with a good excuse;-).
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