About Miroslav Philharmonic

[symphmetal]

Hello
I am making some tones/sounds/layered orchestral and choir sounds on the Miroslav Philharmonic plugin in pro tools for my band songs.

Now my question is, how do I go about using these tones from philharmonic to play live aside the tones i Play from my korg m50?

[Syntey]

No way, only with notebook with Philharmonik..

[billbaker]

"No way, only with notebook with Philharmonik.."

Denial and solution in the same sentence!

Syntey's got it tho'.

Getting the samples into the M3 would be the big chore -- if you didn't want to take your computer on stage. No good quick way to convert to KMP and lots of work to build sounds (even just playing raw samples without additional custom programing) in to useable programs or combinations. It can be done, but you have to be OK with building from the ground up.

On the other hand, hey, it's already in your computer. You'd need midi to control it; programing to define what sounds you want to play [i.e., EXTernal, MIDI channel, etc.] and have some type of decent audio interface... at which point your computer is no different than any other MIDI module.

As cheap as used notebooks are, you could run that and a number of other optional plug-in synths or sample libraries from a dedicated platform stripped of everything but your music programs.


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[symphmetal]

Now what would you say if I would be ready to change my live gear? Is there any korg workstation/synth that would allow me to import the samples from the pc to my live instrument as combis?

[billbaker]

Provided you are willing to do multi-sampling with intervals small enough to hide any time-based distortion [imaging tremolo strings that get maniacally fast as you go up the keyboard] then you are free to sample anything... combos, leads, Tarzan yells, dogs barking, etc. Even over very small intervals tho', looped materials, and samples with tremolo and/or vibrato will experience noticeable tempo changes as pitch is raised.

You need to know the limitations and pros & cons of the technology.

Your best results will be from entering a basic multi-sample, then manipulating it using your synth's engine -- using RAM samples in the same way that all the ROM samples are.

You are proposing to sample a completely finished combination built to work with your PC's sample software; that precludes most further manipulation and gives you only the complex-yet-static (non-evolving) sample to work with -- its pretty much guaranteed to sound way less dynamic than the same combo on your computer.

Say that the combo you want is a large orchestra (strings / brass / percussion).
The ability to realize the combos you want will be determined by whether you want the one-shot sounding sample (finished combi) at a set volume level, or have the programming savvy to rebuild your combis within the architecture of the M50's engine to include velocity-dynamic percussion, velocity-switched strings and dynamically filtered brass for a much more "live" feel.

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As to the start over question, you'll get the best milage out of Kronos and its 9 engines (yes, including sampling), each with their own flavor and strengths.

and/or

Buy a really good controller and stay on the PC platform using the engine that generated and manipulates the sample/combi in its native environment -- you might try things like the StudioBlade hybrid or something simpler such as the integrated and preprogrammed controllers specially tooled to work with known/popular templates such as Abelton, Maschine and other soft-synths. I haven't pursued it, but don't think I've heard of a really viable middle ground.


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[symphmetal]

Thanks a lot for the detailed reply.

I was actually thinking of using a good interface and just stick to the macbook platform and just use the midi capability of my m50 to play the samples from philharmonic and EWQL vocal choirs.

I think thats a good investment.