how do you organise your sounds/set list?

ferchis · Post by **ferchis** » Tue May 08, 2012 1:27 am

simple question... I was wondering, how would you go about it?

I was thinking of a double approach: either I use a set list PER SONG, or simply a set list PER SHOW, which would mean putting all sounds for ALL songs in the one set list in some order I would understand and reach quickly.

or, with the first approach, I could simply change set lists per every song in a show, which would be a possible waste of space, but neat and organised, giving me the chance to change sounds as many times as I wish within a song. the downside probably being that I would have to limit myself to 128 songs in total, but still seems like a huge number, right?

bsbsantos · Post by **bsbsantos** » Tue May 08, 2012 2:03 am

I use a set list PER SONG. Even if I need just on program for that song.

Meanwhile, you can read this thread

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... highlight=

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Tue May 08, 2012 8:01 am

I use a set list for the complete band (currently I'm in two).

However I have set lists organized a bit differently:
- set list 0: factory default
- set list 1: band 1, alphabetic order
- set list 2: band 1, gig order (not fully set since we don't gig yet)
- set list 3: band 1, old songs (we don't play anymore, but dont' want to get deleted)
- set list 4: band 2, alphabetic order
etc

So before a gig, I make a copy of one set list to another and then rearrange the slots.

ronnfigg · Post by **ronnfigg** » Tue May 08, 2012 9:15 am

I do pretty much the same thing that Michel does. if you are in a working cover band and do a large number of songs it's nice to have the ability top step through Set List slots with a foot switch. Having an alphabetical list is also a good idea. Keep it as your master set list.

Sanrek · Post by **Sanrek** » Tue May 08, 2012 10:00 am

I use a set list per show (in gig order) but with another extra "rule":

Only one song per "screen" - or 16 slots group - even if I only use 2 or 3, so as to prevent an accidental stop of the playback of the current sequencer song (wich include our backing tracks and drummer's reference track).

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Tue May 08, 2012 10:15 am

ronnfigg wrote:I do pretty much the same thing that Michel does. if you are in a working cover band and do a large number of songs it's nice to have the ability top step through Set List slots with a foot switch. Having an alphabetical list is also a good idea. Keep it as your master set list.

I use the alphabetic list because we mostly organize the order just before a gig and changes a lot.

I also have the plan to make one in alphabetic order by song name, other by artist, but I wait until I implement this in PCG Tools so I don't have to do it manually.

ScoobyDoo555 · Post by **ScoobyDoo555** » Tue May 08, 2012 11:03 am

Got one "master" setlist (which has all the songs I do)

Copy/Paste into a new setlist for each gig, depending how we change the set.

Therefore, I use 1 "slot" per song. I've got all the sounds per song programmed into a specific combi for that song. I can then mute/unmute sounds as required in the song.

jeremykeys · Post by **jeremykeys** » Tue May 08, 2012 11:54 am

So far in no particular order except for all the parts of each song. That's for my heavy band but we haven't gigged yet. For my Blues band it just a bunch of sounds that I can grab at any particular moment as we don't use a set-list. Someone just calls out a song and we go for it.

andreidelait · Post by **andreidelait** » Tue May 08, 2012 11:59 am

I use one set list per song because my vocalist sometimes chenge the order of the songs and because of my sight problems is really hard for me to figure out quick if I have all of them in the same set list. Also I use a footswitch to change the slots.
If I have for instance 2 different timbres in a song and I need to switch them more times, that's what I do:
Let's say Slot1 - Piano, Slot2 - Strings, and let's say I start with the piano first.
When I need the strings just use the footswitch to reach Slot2. After that if I need the Piano back I have to copy the Slot1 to Slot3 and so on. So I put all the timbrs in exact order I use them in the song and change them with a single footswich press.
I use the touchscreen just to switch between songs.

michelkeijzers · Post by **michelkeijzers** » Tue May 08, 2012 12:28 pm

andreidelait wrote:Let's say Slot1 - Piano, Slot2 - Strings, and let's say I start with the piano first.

Is it not time consuming to change e.g. a piano in a complete song when you have to change it on 5 or more set list slots?

andreidelait · Post by **andreidelait** » Tue May 08, 2012 12:36 pm

michelkeijzers wrote:
andreidelait wrote:Let's say Slot1 - Piano, Slot2 - Strings, and let's say I start with the piano first.
Is it not time consuming to change e.g. a piano in a complete song when you have to change it on 5 or more set list slots?

Just a little. (I assume you reffering to replace the sound with a new one). I replace the first slot and after that copy paste again in the others. It's very relaxing to take just take care of one pedal when you're playing and that's why I take my time to prepair the setlist at home.

keekma · Post by **keekma** » Tue May 08, 2012 12:41 pm

ScoobyDoo555 wrote:Got one "master" setlist (which has all the songs I do)

Copy/Paste into a new setlist for each gig, depending how we change the set.

Therefore, I use 1 "slot" per song. I've got all the sounds per song programmed into a specific combi for that song. I can then mute/unmute sounds as required in the song.

I organized it the same way. I have a K88 and a midikeyboard. For every song in my band I put all my sounds in one combi and split them over the two keyboards. Sometimes I use the mute buttons. I have all my combis in one mastersetlist alfabetical and in one for gigs. When I need to transpose during a song I use two combis and two corresponding setlistslots.

addy73 · Post by **addy73** » Tue May 08, 2012 1:03 pm

What a great thread with a bunch a great ideas! I am trying to embrace the setlist mode and am using the comment area as a cheat sheet for songs I need reminders on... - man I wish they would give us control over the text size in the comments feild - even just one more option to double the size cutting the avaialable characters in half..)

Anyway, I play in four bands and have had a setlist for each band. I am now going to steal michelkeijzers method with an added setlist for ALL SONGS.

When I used to play full time I had memorized over 150 combi/patch numbers... not so much anymore.

mathieumaes · Post by **mathieumaes** » Tue May 08, 2012 1:31 pm

My Kronos usually stays at the location where my band rehearsals, but I keep a PCG file on my USB stick.

Whenever someone prepares a set list for a given show, I use PCG tools on my PC. When my Kronos is installed, I just load the PCG and voila. I usually bring my netbook as well, so I can make last minute changes without being near the keyboard (ie. backstage).

Also, I have an alternative way of having an alphabetical list of songs. I created a combi for each song and put those in an empty bank.

There are 2 unused combi categories. Using global mode, I renamed one to "My combis" and defined subcategories as follows: ABC, DEF, HIJK, etc...
The combis are put in the appropriate subcategory and you get an easy browseable overview of all your songs!

addy73 · Post by **addy73** » Tue May 08, 2012 1:45 pm

Another idea to add is if you are using a single set list for a show, have each page be a set. (1-16) set 1 (17-32) set2 etc.

Also,
I usually reserve the top 4 slots of a set page for Paino, EP, Organ, and strings.