Damper Pedal

Hephzibah · Post by **Hephzibah** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:46 am

I recently purchased a used M50-88. So far I love it. The only problem I'm having is with the damper pedal. No matter which program I choose, the pedal doesn't respond correctly; the sound doesn't decay but remains.

I have the pedal plugged into the correct Damper jack. The pedal is a Roland with a toggle for continuous or switch. I've tried it in both positions and the sound continues until I turn off the M50. The Parameter manual (p. 228), says to check the polarity. I've went to global settings; however, I can't figure out how to get to page 2-1 for controllers.

Requesting help.

Thanks,

Hephzibah

CfNorENa · Post by **CfNorENa** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:15 am

Hephzibah wrote:I've went to global settings; however, I can't figure out how to get to page 2-1 for controllers.

Welcome to the board, and congrats on the M50!

To get to different pages within the various modes (Program, Combi, Sequencer, Global), hit the "page select" button just below the round data wheel (to the right of the touchscreen). There you'll find P2: Controllers. When you go there, change polarity from + to - (or vice versa).

Cheers.

Hephzibah · Post by **Hephzibah** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:33 pm

CfNorENa,

Thank you for your help. I spent about half an hour changing the + to - and changing the toggle on the pedal and still can't get it to work like an acoustic piano. The best I can figure out is I have to press to sustain and press down a second time to release the notes.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Hephzibah

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:00 pm

Sounds like your pedal is (or is set to) latching and not momentary.

Terr0rHavok · Post by **Terr0rHavok** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 5:45 pm

Im going to take a lucky guess.

You played with the knobs and now the "Release" knob is so modified that your sounds stays, no matter what.

Hephzibah · Post by **Hephzibah** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:59 pm

How do I reset from latching to momentary? Where is the "Release" knob so I can fix it?

As mentioned in the first post, I bought the keyboard used. Is there any way to do a global reset so everything would be reset like it just left the factory?

Thanks,

Hephzibah

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:58 am

It won't be the 'release' knob because as you described, the sound stops again when you press the pedal a second time. And the release parameter knob would only affect the current sound and then reset when you navigate away to a different sound.

the latching/momentary problem is related to the pedal and I don't think you can change that behaviour in the global settings. For example I have a very basic 'latching' pedal lying around which exhibits exactly the same behaviour.
I have an identical looking pedal (both the cheap rubber padded 'wedge' type) which is momentary and that works fine - get the mixed up sometimes.

It is down to the kind of switch used in the pedal, so it may just be the 'wrong' pedal'.

You can do a factory reset from the Global Mode, in one of the menus somewhere. I'm not personally familiar with the process but you should find it referenced in the Operations Guide.

mrteclas · Post by **mrteclas** » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:48 am

Press and mantain Realltime controlers + Reset controllers at the same time while turning the keyboard on, it resets it. But that's not the problem, get a new damper pedal, like Korg DS1H or Kurzweil KP1

Hephzibah · Post by **Hephzibah** » Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:13 pm

Thanks for all the help. I used an old Radio Shack wedge pedal and it worked great. Next time I get to a town with a music store, I'll be getting a new pedal.

Would the Roland pedal work as a switch pedal or should I just sell it?

Thanks again for all the help!

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:52 pm

It would work as a latching switch pedal in the assignable switch jack. But if you have the pedal 'on' and you change program, the parameters would reset so pressing the pedal again would turn it 'off', but the parameter you are controlling would already be 'off' then you'd have to press the pedal again to get the parameter 'on' again.

It does have its advantages, I used to use my latching pedal for rotary speed control, but because of the above glitch it is easier to use a standard momentary pedal and set the 'latching' parameter in the rotary IFX parameters.

billbaker · Post by **billbaker** » Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:37 pm

The latching pedal is useful for gear made to use it... typically this type of switch is preferred for things like choosing between channels A + B on a guitar amp, where you'd actually WANT it to latch on to the new channel until you pressed it again.

If you do decide to sell it, sell it as a latching switch, with a note that it is NOT for use as a sustain pedal. That way the next guy won't be in your shoes.

:]

BB

ego somnium · Post by **ego somnium** » Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:12 pm

Hephzibah wrote:Thanks for all the help. I used an old Radio Shack wedge pedal and it worked great. Next time I get to a town with a music store, I'll be getting a new pedal.

Would the Roland pedal work as a switch pedal or should I just sell it?

Thanks again for all the help!

Hi Hephzibah,

I'm using a Boss FS-5U pedal with my M50 - it's a momentary (ie non-latching switch), plugged into the ASSIGNABLE SWITCH socket, and it works perfectly as a sustain pedal. You should be able to pick one up for about €20/25.

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