Help with a hardsynth setup with my electribe mx???

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Help with a hardsynth setup with my electribe mx???

Post by syntheSYS syndycyte »

Hey, I just bought an electribe mx and kp3 used in new condition from guitar center, and i have recently bought a microkorg, and am trying to figure out a way to hook everything together... hopefully incorporating my boss br-900cd. Also, I have a nano pad, axiom 25, and FL9 and Ableton suite 8.

Please, I know I'm a noob. Otherwise I wouldnt be asking for your help! any and all suggestions relating to hooking my equipment up would be appreciated! It is definitely not neccesary to incorporate the computer, nanopad, and axiom yet... because I know how those work all together and I really really want to get into hardsynth live electronica, dubstep, and psytrance.

You guys reading this.... rock.

I commend you.
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Post by trypset »

well what kind of music do you want to make? That's a start. edit....sorry, i now see your choice of styles.

That aside, you have multiple options, none are right or wrong.

The KP3 is a sampler/effects unit. You could use external intrstrument effect on a return track in Ableton 8.

Set the tribe and microkorg up on the tracks in ableton with external intstrument effect.

I would make Ableton the master and slave the other devices midi clock to Ableton. Might have to adjust track or MIDI delays to get them in sync.

Then you can play away on the tribe and micro and use the sends to send the outputted audio to the KP3.

Hope that gets you started. Nothing like having a shitload of gear and no clue how or why you have it....
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Post by syntheSYS syndycyte »

I appreciate your response, thats a bomb setup through a DAW... but I'm trying to figure out how to make everything work without a laptop mostly.

Sorry for being so vague. But I want to use my br900 to record everything either live or track-by-track, but dont know how to chain everything together in terms of midi clock sync.
(The br900 has a midi out ONLY, so I was thinking that could be the end of my analog signal, while being the start of my midi ??)

My primary concern is really getting all the korg parts midi synced, and learning how switching an individual component (or a few) from sending/receiving midi to analog and different variations thereof.

I HAVE read the manuals and done some searching on this, but I'm just lost.

Not trying to piss anyone off guys, just trying to dabble in different areas and extend my musical horizons. Many thanks to TRYPSET and future posters.
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Post by chad9477 »

I've got a similar setup myself -- playing with an EMX and KP3, and recording to a BR1200. If you're not into working with the computer yet, you can make some fairly evil tunes using the three pieces of gear I just mentioned.

A suggested plan for the next chunk of your life:

Rout the EMX outputs through the KP3 in, then the KP3 outs into the BR900 (which I assume can record at most two tracks at once). Take a few EMX patterns you like and experiment with changing them up -- i.e. tweak the filter knobs on the EMX, mess with the arpeggiator, bring synth voices in and out, plus have fun with the KP3's effects.

With this setup, you can record your jam sessions to the BR900 and listen back to them. This will be a good way to get to know how to balance the sounds coming out of the EMX/KP3 chain so you can make decent recordings.

Re MIDI sync, you can definitely use the MIDI out from the BR900 as the start of your MIDI clock, but be aware that if you're also trying to sync the EMX with loops recorded to the sample banks of your KP3, they drift apart a LOT faster if the KP3 is not the master. At this stage I'd just make the KP3 the master clock and jam out. You won't be able to hit record on the BR900 and make your EMX start simultaneously, but that's your only drawback at this stage.

Eventually I suspect you'll probably get into Ableton, as its capabilities are vast...but if you're just getting started the setup I've mentioned will teach you a lot. That way when you get into using software and the rest of your gear you won't feel so disoriented. Good luck.
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Post by darthballs »

Also for your MIDI clock/syncing, have you thought about splitting a master signal to the rest of your gear?

Something like- http://keyboards-midi.musiciansfriend.c ... sku=702504

Spending $50 is a pain in the ass just to split MIDI, but I think this is the approach I'm going to take to sync up all my gear (drum machine -> couple synths and loop pedal)

I feel like you'd get a tighter sync doing it this way instead of daisy chaining a bunch of thru signals, but I haven't done any comparison yet. Also since some gear have random issues in certain master/slave roles, I figure this would let you pick out a tried and tested piece of gear to use as a master to send a clock to the rest of your gear instead of figuring out what will or wont work slaved.

Anyone have thoughts on this?
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improvments?

Post by syntheSYS syndycyte »

so, I had a few days to go mess around with all my gear with my buddy playing around on ableton with my nano pad and axiom 25 hooked up to it.. As I was jamming on the emx audio routed through the kp3 with audio into my mixer into my br900, whilie the micro korg was seperately routed into the mixer, as was the ableton feed.

Any tips on changes to this setup??
(Arrangment wise, that is.. no LARGE purchases)


The midi was a pain to sync, leaving us to tap sync and change the tempos manually... which worked decent for the circumstances.

Also, I got to wondering if I could use the axiom as a keyboard controller of my emx synth since the axiom has midi ins and outs which could POTENTIALLY (????) be connected to the emx's midi ports?
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syntheSYS syndycyte
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improvments?

Post by syntheSYS syndycyte »

so, I had a few days to go mess around with all my gear with my buddy playing around on ableton with my nano pad and axiom 25 hooked up to it.. As I was jamming on the emx audio routed through the kp3 with audio into my mixer into my br900, whilie the micro korg was seperately routed into the mixer, as was the ableton feed.

Any tips on changes to this setup??
(Arrangment wise, that is.. no LARGE purchases)


The midi was a pain to sync, leaving us to tap sync and change the tempos manually... which worked decent for the circumstances.

Also, I got to wondering if I could use the axiom as a keyboard controller of my emx synth since the axiom has midi ins and outs which could POTENTIALLY (????) be connected to the emx's midi ports?
"If all our base belongs to you... All your acid belongs to us!"
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