keep tone while changing programs

[yarwan]

Is there a way to keep the tone/sound you are playing in, change the program (or combi), and then when you select it, smoothly get to the new tone?

I'll try to clarify my question with an example: Let's say I play strings on one program and hold a chord down with my left hand. Then, the next part of the song requires an organ. So with my right hand I select an organ program and choose it (still holding down the chord with my right). The sound of the chord I'm holding then immediately changes to that of the chosen organ, while I started it with the strings. I would like to keep the sound of the strings until I release it and any new note be the organ.

How can I do that?

[EvilDragon]

In Program or Combi mode, you can't have that. In fact in Program mode you can get smooth changes, but you will hear the effects change dramatically. In Combi mode you will ALWAYS get a silent gap because effects need to be reset and reallocated.

Kurzweil and Roland have it better in their Setup/Performance/Live modes.

[kikedeolivos]

Your question is very clear and this topic has been discussed several times on this forum. AFAIK, there's no way to smoothly accomplish it. (I might be wrong)

[jerryv]

The only way I can think of would be to split the keyboard .. but what a pain in the neck!

[yarwan]

Thanks for the reactions! My question is answered. I oned a Roland before where it could be done. Shame it doen't work that way on the M50. Maybe I should try the split setup.

[kanthos]

You've got a couple choices. Either split the keyboard in a combi, use a second keyboard to send MIDI to your M50, or play the M50 in sequencer mode and select a track on a different MIDI channel (there are one or two long posts about how and why this works, though they're not necessarily in the M50 part of the forum, but they'll still apply to it).

[Ozz]

Hi

mi old Casio CTK-811 does that... i can hold a note/chord and change the instrument without problems, also with the wholes "combis" (split keyboard and 1 layer) but the Casio only has 1 fixed FX processor, so if u set reverb, u only have reverb on all the instruments.
I'm not going to compare the sound quality between Casio and Korg but I've read some time ago that Casio and Korg made some kind of partnership settlement. So u won't see Korg products on the price tag of Casio, even when is a market with a strong presence of Roland and Yamaha... Casio use the standar polarity of Korg for the pedals and Casio had an a big improvement of their sound quality over the years.

Roland and Kurzweil seems to have solved this problem in some situations, im not sure about Yamaha... but, IMO, its a problem mainly with the FX processor that seems to be a different chip with the sound processor (sound engine)...

Would be nice that the new software improvements in the current generations synths could give a real solution to this problem (not only for program mode)... or in the worst case.. a hardware solution in the new generation in a few years (deja vu)

almost all the synth players we've some kind of solution to workaround using SEQ mode, MIDI controllers, more than 1 synth, etc. and in some situations, very fast hands for changes

maybe thats the real problem... the solution more adequate for the Synth Companies its the current one.. buy other piece of gear...

Regards
Alvaro.

[somnambulist]

If you are feeling adventurous you could try my solution that I figured out with the chord triggers & RPPR. Its detailed here: http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=46563. There is a sample SEQ int he post that you could try out to see if you like it.

The key point related to your question is "You can switch back and forth and holding the keys or using the damper you can play over the previous sound (until you run out of polyphony of course)"

[mocando]

At first I tried every possible way of getting a smooth transition from one sound to the other, got a foot pedal and set it up for program up and program down, used the wheel, up/down keys, the touchscreen, etc. Still I always found myself hitting the wrong key or pushing twice on the foot pedal in the heat of the moment and ending up with an awful sound, having to step back quickly and loosing the tempo. So I decided not to switch sounds during a song.

I got a 49 key MIDI controller, and I have all my sounds split around the 61+49 keys, without even bothering on switching combis.

I'm a happy camper

[Run]

As read, it doesn't work but I comment just to inform that it does when I trigger the M50 wit my midi synth guitars and I appreciate this function a lot. I don't know if it would work when triggering the M-50 with an second keyboard ?

[drama1]

Get yourself an M3. I use Karma for this function of smooth program/combi changes and it works beautifully.