emx ,esx or wavedrum?

agentcoles · Post by **agentcoles** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:39 am

hi guys, now im a total newb to this music hardware thang so i will keep it short.
i have recently purchased a kp3, padkontrol, kaossilator and a novation x-station 49(have to wait for chrimbo for this) but i have a little extra cash burning a hole in my pocket so i was wondering what would compliment my setup .....an electribe emx/esx or bite the bullet and get a wavedrum?
ps...i have all of them somehow connected to fruityloops as i do enjoy a flirt around with flstudio 8.
thankyou in advance for any replies.

AI_Joe · Post by **AI_Joe** » Thu Dec 10, 2009 5:50 am

The wavedrum, like the kaossilator, is pretty much it's own island in terms of not having any MIDI support. Your only option there is to either sample it in FL or record it in real time as you play it.

radiatesky · Post by **radiatesky** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:23 pm

Wavedrum:
+ touch & pressure sensitive, capable of nuance, sparkly and new, best chance at buying something that will not soon be bypassed or become completely obsolete.
- drum sounds only, not a dedicated midi looping/programming machine
(don't own one, so this is what I would consider)

ESX:
+sampling gem, great sound sequencer/manipulator, compliments the kp3 nicely, super intuitive interface: most rewarding purchase for a sonic destroyer such as I am.
- not the best pads to bang on, no pressure sensitivity, storage device is obsolete

EMX:
+synth
-ESX does all the EMX does, contains some of the synth sounds from the EMX, which you will erase once you realize you can make way cooler sounds on the ESX.

Hardware person, so FL is not a consideration for me,

hope this helps!

Yornav · Post by **Yornav** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:04 am

Aaarg... It really depends on what you want to do with it... Software has tremendiously more options.

I own a ESX and EMX and R3... I really love to make beats on that baby emx! But, not to complex sounds are possible on that hardware piece. I use the ESX for more sampled complex special fill in sounds that I made in ableton or with R3.

I do love them! And was considering that a KP3 and padcontrol would perfectly complement those machines. Or vice versa in yout case.

If you want to buy an electribe I recomend to first buy an EMX because of the synth parts. If it's not enough... buy an ESX... And if that is not enough Buy a R3.

Hope it helps

screaminkeys · Post by **screaminkeys** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 11:46 pm

One correction.. Wavedrum also lets you perform chromatic instruments including synths, not just 'drums'.

=)

Ruso · Post by **Ruso** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:04 am

agentcoles wrote:hi guys, now im a total newb to this music hardware thang so i will keep it short.
i have recently purchased a kp3, padkontrol, kaossilator and a novation x-station 49(have to wait for chrimbo for this) but i have a little extra cash burning a hole in my pocket so i was wondering what would compliment my setup .....an electribe emx/esx or bite the bullet and get a wavedrum?
ps...i have all of them somehow connected to fruityloops as i do enjoy a flirt around with flstudio 8.
thankyou in advance for any replies.

Ok Listen dude.... and do trust me on this. I realize that this is an electribe forum.... but. You have one VERY good midi controller, and a nice synth.....

Now although I would have to say that the best thing to get to LEARN music would be to get an EMX-1.... it would allow you to really learn how synthesizers work and apply it later in music as well as learn how to do drums.....

BUT BUT BUT

You have already invested quite a bit of money and your setup would be SUPERIOR to use with Ableton Live. Although you will spend only a little bit more then a new electribe you will have such a tremendous work horse would be in every single way superior to having any combination of hardware.

Now.... with that said, although compared to other software, the learning curve in Ableton is a lot easier.... it is still a lot harder to learn (I mean to really learn it) then most hardware...

BUT

Once you learn it I will guarantee you in every way that you will never go back to hardware simply because anything you can do with hardware you can do better in Ableton.

I know I am a bit biast being an Ableton guy myself... but I have owned both EMX and ESX, and I have owned other groove boxes and samplers .

You simply will be able to do a LOT better stuff in the long run and you will be able to not only produce tracks but also perform them live..... also depending on how well you want to learn it and how good your computer knowledge is you can LITERALLY now make a groove box inside Ableton live that will have sound quality that is 1000 times better.

Now I will say that hardware will be a lot more intuitive and more fun for the time you spend learning.... but the reality is, once you learn Ableton you can set it up to have the same hands on feel to it.

Also being what I would consider an Ableton EXPERT, I can offer to teach you anything I know as long as you are willing to learn it and be passionate about it.....

Trust me on this one, although you will be just fine with hardware you can do so much more and so much better in Ableton if you invest your time into it.

I tell you not from preference but from experience. I have fairly regular music shows that I play and I played 2 of the 3 biggest music festivals this summer in my area.

Get a hold of me on AIM (Dmitri Serge Jr), MSN (ruso@audio-ruso.com) or go register on my website (electribe-forum.com) and PM me and I can give you a lot more info as well as examples of why it's such a great choice for ya.

Good luck!

Ruso · Post by **Ruso** » Sun Dec 20, 2009 10:05 am

Oh and by the way...... NO you do not need a monitor or a screen, you can set everything up to act exactly like hardware and with my help I can teach you how to make it all reliable.

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