Why do you guys think that KORG

kikedeolivos · Post by **kikedeolivos** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:05 pm

hasn't released an update (OS) on the M50 since December 2008?

ASTK · Post by **ASTK** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:32 pm

Hope they'll do Expanded OS like they did in M3

mocando · Post by **mocando** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:37 pm

I'd love to have a sampling option. No matter if there are no inputs. I don't want to record samples, but be able to play samples stored on the SD. Just that and I'll be a happy camper.

CfNorENa · Post by **CfNorENa** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:15 pm

I went with "they don't want to." The main reason, I imagine, is that they need to keep a respectable distance between the M50 and the M3 -- make the M50 too good, and M3 sales decline. Would be very interesting to see the sales numbers on the M3 since the debut of the M50...

jacke · Post by **jacke** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:01 pm

It's probably true that they want to keep the M3/M50 separation, but I think it's also a question of what they *can* add. If the M50 wasn't designed from the ground up to have a sampling option it might not be easy to just add it post-release.

Chose "nothing to improve", since that's how I feel. Sure there are small issues if you really nitpick, but there have been very few instances so far where I wanted something done on the M50 and I didn't find a way to do it.

kikedeolivos · Post by **kikedeolivos** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:36 pm

CfNorENa wrote:I went with "they don't want to." The main reason, I imagine, is that they need to keep a respectable distance between the M50 and the M3 -- make the M50 too good, and M3 sales decline. Would be very interesting to see the sales numbers on the M3 since the debut of the M50...

Very interesting reasoning, even though in the wishlist sticky, AFAIK, a sampling option is not the priority for M50 users.

Davidb · Post by **Davidb** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:17 am

kikedeolivos wrote:hasn't released an update (OS) on the M50 since December 2008?

Hello there.

I imagine too that they need to keep a respectable distance between the M50 and the M3.

I want to tell you I sympatize with you all, fellows.
But It could be worse, belive me.

As an example, If you guys had an OASYS, you´d have to hear that theres no more updates for it anymore.

Rio Ricardo · Post by **Rio Ricardo** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:46 am

aftertouch. .i need it. . .

Synastikki · Post by **Synastikki** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:47 am

Rio Ricardo wrote:aftertouch. .i need it. . .

this would actually need a Hardware update...

I have owned a second-hand Korg Triton Classic for 5 years now and never had any OS updates after loading the one that was newest at that point so

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:29 pm

Aftertouch would need a completely different hardware platform, as would any kind of sampling or sample RAM upgrade.
KORG specifically decided not to include these features, they're not going to put them back in, even if they could.

And the manufacturer is not obligated to provide any updates. Most updates are purely for bug-fixing purposes.

The supercharged update for the M3 turned it into what it should have been in the first place. However, all the extra ROM sounds that were put in the expanded M3 are already in the M50.

The fact is, there are few things that can't be done either directly or indirectly on the M50 or the M3. Or any of the tritons on that matter. Some of you scoff at the notion of 'workarounds' and lengthly methods, but that is just making use of the tools available, and they are perfectly adequate for the job.

And if you wanted sampling or aftertouch, you should have got the M3. Its a miracle that they made the M50 as cheap as it is. Instead of the M50 being as crippled as the TR with its one insert effect, they gave it five! sampling, aftertouch, the sequencer, and KARMA are the only things that keep it apart. And it will always be a budget model.

Point is, they've released a product, its got features, its got functionality. It doesn't seem to have many crippling bugs except for a few isolated cases. so why should they release an update? what, with new features? for free?

I'd say its a combination of not having anything to improve, and wanting to keep a reasonable feature gap between the M50 and the M3.

MartinHines · Post by **MartinHines** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:50 am

Yamaha does not own Korg. Yamaha Japan has a very small ownership interest in Korg Japan.

Regarding an M50 OS update, does it need one? What new features does it need that are software based?

This is not the same question as you wanting an update.

andersborg · Post by **andersborg** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:22 pm

"all the extra ROM sounds that were put in the expanded M3 are already in the M50"

Are you sure? Do you mean that e.g. the woodwind section is the same as the added samples in M3 Expanded? The amount of sample ROM indicates that's not the case.

X-Trade · Post by **X-Trade** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:42 pm

andersborg wrote:"all the extra ROM sounds that were put in the expanded M3 are already in the M50"

Are you sure? Do you mean that e.g. the woodwind section is the same as the added samples in M3 Expanded? The amount of sample ROM indicates that's not the case.

if you mean the EX woodwind and brass bank, then no. as they were not put in the ROM, they have to be loaded from a USB stick as samples every time the unit starts up.

but they did add/change samples in the on-board ROM bank.

In-Demand Sounds at Your Fingertips
Careful examination of the 256 Mbyte internal ROM has allowed Korg to embellish and add many new sounds – without sacrificing any existing ones. And, as always, Korg's renowned team of programmers have used every inch of the M3 XPanded's EDS (Enhanced Definition Synthesis) technology to create programs that use this new data to its fullest.

We've added a new set of electric pianos – both reed and tine – sampled at four velocity levels for natural expression. These programs also use the M3 XPanded's REMS amplifier circuit modeling effects for enhanced realism and authentic tone character.

Also on board is a robust acoustic piano – sampled in stereo at three dynamic levels; and including damper resonance sample layers – has replaced the original M3 piano, but don't fear, the original M3 piano is now available as an expansion library. Read on for more details.

At Korg, we're always taking requests, and one of the most requested sounds ever - the classic KORG SG-1D stage piano – has been added. This refined sampled piano sits nicely in the stage mix and remains popular in many musical genres

Classic keyboards also include that funky Clav. Here it has been authentically recreated with all of the tab/pickup combinations (AC, AD, BC, BD), sampled at multiple velocity levels for a natural feel that really responds to your playing dynamics.

Flute and string sounds taken from those mechanical nightmare tape-driven keyboards of days gone by are back, giving a truly vintage vibe to your music.

Last but not least, another popular request has been added - a mono piano for playing live through a mono system with no cancellation or sonic loss.

andersborg · Post by **andersborg** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:22 pm

That's very good, as it makes the M50 more in line with the M3 than I had thought (having lost in a bidding for a used M3).

Cheers,
Anders

McHale · Post by **McHale** » Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:14 am

OK, I'll bite.

Korg hasn't released one yet because it isn't ready yet.

Why wasn't THAT an option?

There'll be one. I guarantee it. There are bugs to fix (one or two I reported that are pretty significant).

Be patient. This isn't an iPhone...

-Mc

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