KP3 / Behringer FCB1010 footpedal questions

chad9477 · Post by **chad9477** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:47 pm

I'm about to start linking my Kaoss Pad 3 with a Behringer FCB-1010 MIDI footpedal. I've read the previous posts on using them together but thought I'd ask everyone's opinions who's done it before.

It seems like few of the specifics of linking the two have been covered in previous posts, so if someone could also lay out the procedures for accomplishing any of what I ask below, then awesome. Otherwise I'll try to post some how-to's myself after some trial and error. (At this point, I at least want to make sure I don't waste hours trying to accomplish something patently impossible.)

-First, sampling. Which steps in the sampling process can you program the FCB to execute? I.e., trigger the "Sampling" button; choose sample bank A-D (and therefore start recording a sample there); hit the sample bank button again to turn recorded sample loops on/off; etc.? Also, to be clear, which steps can MIDI commands NOT execute?

-Next, program changes. I've seen another thread about using the two expression pedals to control the touchscreen's X and Y axes: http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... ht=fcb1010
I expect it will be easy to instruct the KP3 to change between the 8 program buttons atop the touchscreen, but has anyone tried it? Any glitches or tips you've come across?

-Timing. I know that getting the KP3 synchronized with a MIDI clock is a perennial problem...is it possible to trigger the "align" button with the FCB?

-Other controls. Can you trigger and/or adjust any of these with MIDI commands?: Mute, Hold, FX depth, FX release level.

-Any experiences using the FCB to control more than one device at a time? (I assume it is easy enough to send out signals using more than one MIDI channel, but...anybody had issues?)

-Any other thoughts or observations?

Thanks!

salamanderanagram · Post by **salamanderanagram** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:06 pm

- never tried sampling via midi but my guess is that at least the sample button will need to be pressed manually. i think after that you can send a note C2 on message and it will start sampling (in bank A, bank b = C#2, etc...)

changing programs is easy, just send a value 0-127 to the right controller (i forget which).

i've never used the align button with MIDI before but in my experience as long as you use the KP3 as the master clock all should work okay.

the hold button can send/receive MIDI data. You can turn samples on and off. you can send data with FX depth and level but i'm not sure if you can write to those values... you should be able to.

if you got the expression pedal hooked up to the X-Y axes you could use my kaossilator patch to make melodies with your feet!

spencer vex · Post by **spencer vex** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:09 am

salamanderanagram wrote:my kaossilator patch

whats this you speak of?

salamanderanagram · Post by **salamanderanagram** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:20 am

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... lator+midi

basically it takes the x-y values pad values of the KP3's midi output and translates them into a grid... which then outputs one of 8 notes depending on the x-position, volume is controlled by y-position.

A-D and 1-8 control which scale and key and turning chords on/off. comes with the same 32 scales that the kaossilator has.

Also there is my monome emulator which is still on the front page of this forum somewhere... the monome emulator is really great and powerful now, too bad it seems to be way more popular at the monome forums (who don't tend to have kp3's to test with) than it is here for some reason.

spencer vex · Post by **spencer vex** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:29 am

salamanderanagram wrote:http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... lator+midi

in the top left corner of the page from your project, i see you have a yamaha DD-20c painted blue and red with some hardware comin out of it... ?

ive got one of those collecting dust

salamanderanagram · Post by **salamanderanagram** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:01 am

i'll show you how to circuit bend it if you want...

spencer vex · Post by **spencer vex** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:06 am

salamanderanagram wrote:i'll show you how to circuit bend it if you want...

sounds interesting...

whats that entail and what are the results?

salamanderanagram · Post by **salamanderanagram** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:09 am

you need to know how to solder, have a dremel and a few potentiometers. it's glitchy as hell if you tweak the knobs just right, not as good for bending as other yamaha drumkits but more prone to the crazy aphex/squarepusher style glitches. i have a few videos of it up but they don't to it justice. also i can get midi into the yamaha DD-series, at least 5, 6, and 7, haven't tried the 20c but it would probably be simple.

spencer vex · Post by **spencer vex** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:37 am

salamanderanagram wrote:you need to know how to solder, have a dremel and a few potentiometers. it's glitchy as hell if you tweak the knobs just right, not as good for bending as other yamaha drumkits but more prone to the crazy aphex/squarepusher style glitches. i have a few videos of it up but they don't to it justice. also i can get midi into the yamaha DD-series, at least 5, 6, and 7, haven't tried the 20c but it would probably be simple.

do you have any youtube links of similar stuff?

*EDIT* just watched your video on with the DD-20

what really caught my eye was how you were using the KP3 to control Reason...

what does that entail and what version of Reason was that you were running?

i would love to control thor with my KP3

salamanderanagram · Post by **salamanderanagram** » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:15 am

that's the kaossilator patch. there's instructions on the page, but if you have specific questions or problems i'd appreciate you posting them in the kaossilator thread so i can refer other people to it if they're having similar problems!

i'm probably going to upgrade it soon as right now it only works in bome's pro which costs $80. you can get a free version for 30 days.

Crixus · Post by **Crixus** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:11 am

Hi guys, sorry to bring this thread back from the dead but I'm having a problem with the KP3 & an FCB1010 I picked up recently.

I cant seem to get the Hold to switch off via pedals? It switches on fine, but hitting the pedal again doesn't turn it off, and hitting one of the other pedals to change the effect (even when selecting the effect that was already selected (eg. delay1)) cuts off the previous effect & doesn't let it trail out.. is there a way to get around this? I've tried setting it up to trigger via the expression pedal (eg. 127 is Hold on, 0 is Hold off) but that doesn't seem to work either, it switches on ok, but not off..

What am I doing wrong here? Its gonna be something obvious & I'll feel like an idiot, isn't it?

Thanks in advance!

Grizzle · Post by **Grizzle** » Fri May 21, 2010 6:30 pm

Crixus wrote:Hi guys, sorry to bring this thread back from the dead but I'm having a problem with the KP3 & an FCB1010 I picked up recently.

I cant seem to get the Hold to switch off via pedals? It switches on fine, but hitting the pedal again doesn't turn it off, and hitting one of the other pedals to change the effect (even when selecting the effect that was already selected (eg. delay1)) cuts off the previous effect & doesn't let it trail out.. is there a way to get around this? I've tried setting it up to trigger via the expression pedal (eg. 127 is Hold on, 0 is Hold off) but that doesn't seem to work either, it switches on ok, but not off..

What am I doing wrong here? Its gonna be something obvious & I'll feel like an idiot, isn't it?

Thanks in advance!

i programed mine like this.

bank 00 stomp 5 hold on = cc 95 val 127, exp a 12... 0 - 127, exp b 13... 0 - 127
bank 00 stomp 10 hold off = cc 95 val 0

i use 5 to turn on hold, and the 2 expression pedals to control x,y axis.
10 kills hold.

mitspats · Post by **mitspats** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:56 pm

can you control nia the pedals the motion pad button?

monstereo · Post by **monstereo** » Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:39 pm

Did you set the KP3 to Auto mode?
I am having a hard time programming my KP3 to receive MIDI message CC#95 (hold switch). Please help!

Grizzle · Post by **Grizzle** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:28 am

mitspats wrote:can you control nia the pedals the motion pad button?

If i understand you correctly, with the hold function turned on, yes you can control the pad motion.

monstereo wrote:Did you set the KP3 to Auto mode?
I am having a hard time programming my KP3 to receive MIDI message CC#95 (hold switch). Please help!

When editing a single button, I used cc code 95 for the hold function with a value of 127 for on, additionally you need to turn on cc 12 and 13 on button 8 and 9. These pedals need a full range of motion from 0 - 127.

Here is a video I made to help explain.

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