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New to Korg (PA800 OS install help)

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Hi, I'm new to the Korg Family. I have a Tyro 2 but I feel this new Korg
PA800 is going to be a great instrument for me. the Korg folks have told me there is a new version for this keyboard (2.01) which I am able to download to my computer but not able to get the keyboard to accept it.
I am not a very high tech person and I am sure it is something that I am doing wrong. Can someone out there be of help to me? Is anybody
out there from Spokane, WA, by chance?
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Post by nabil_kh2 »

hi

there is a how to giude with all the info u need
here:

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=38399

hope this helps
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Hi Jermac,

Go to www.korgpa.com and download the new operating system and new musical resources. It is important you have both. Once you have downloaded these 2 files unzip them with winrar. Once you unzip the folders, you should have 2 system files : .PKG and .BKP files, along with 3 PDF files. The .PKG file contains the operating system and the .BKP contains the musical resources. Copy the two files to a USB stick.

LOADING the .PKG

Turn the keyboard off and insert the USB stick into the front connector. Turn the keyboard on and hold onto the INTRO 1 button, a file browser will appear. Once this browser appears select where you copied the .PKG file, once you have found it touch it on the display and press select. Now the file will be copied and a progress bar will show up and tell you the progress.Once it is completed press OK in the display to restart the keyboard.

LOADING the .BKP

Locate the .BKP file from your USB. Then press the MEDIA button in the utility page select full restore resources command, then press execute. Browse through the files and find the .BKP file. Once you have found it select it in the display screen and press the Restore command. Turn off the keyboard when finished then turn it back on again.

If you have any data you want to backup, follow this link before you install the OS:

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/ ... hp?t=38399

Once you unzip the folders you will find a PDF file named " Pa800 Loading OS and resources" follow that, i just summarized the whole procedure for you from here. If you get stuck, just read it.

Hope it helps.
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Post by Giner »

Hi JerMac, welcome to the Korg family.

Like yourself, I'm no techie. Just a thought then, if you bought your Pa800 brand new, couldn't the dealer install the new OS for you? That way, if he messes it up (which I would hope he wouldn't) then it's up to him to get it in there and working properly.

I just got a used Pa1X Pro which needs to be upgraded to its latest OS from the previous version and, even though I've found some great help on this site, I'm still leaning towards taking the unit in to the local dealer to have it done, even though it'll cost me some dollars. I don't know that I can trust myself to do it properly - Murphy's Law, and all that.

You gotta love these guys like Pete, Rob, Nedim, et al. :D
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Post by nabil_kh2 »

hey guys

im new to korg too, this is my firdst professional arranger coming from a casio keyboard. theres some great help here changing OS is really simple and easy i usualy change OS a few tiomes a week even multiple times in a day once u get the hang of it, theres really nothing to it especially with this forum as support.
You gotta love these guys like Pete, Rob, Nedim, et al.

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Like yourself, I'm no techie. Just a thought then, if you bought your Pa800 brand new, couldn't the dealer install the new OS for you? That way, if he messes it up (which I would hope he wouldn't) then it's up to him to get it in there and working properly
Giner, It depends when the keyboard was manufactured. It isn't the dealer's responsibility to install the latest OS, it is the manufacturesrs job. I don't think Korg has manufactured any Pa800's with the new OS installed in them. Remember the new OS came out a month ago. Music stores will sell what they have in stock.
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nabil_kh2 wrote:im new to korg too, this is my firdst professional arranger coming from a casio keyboard. theres some great help here changing OS is really simple and easy i usualy change OS a few tiomes a week even multiple times in a day once u get the hang of it, theres really nothing to it especially with this forum as support.
Hello Nabil,

I'm glad you got to grips with performing OS updates. However you should not need to do this any more frequently that once every six months or so - just whenever Korg re-issue a new version. You say you usually change your OS a few times each week and sometimes several times a day. I can't understand why this is necessary and it seems like a very bad idea to me! Let me explain ...

The re-programmable memory in which the OS is stored has a finite lifetime, rated in terms of a few thousand reprogram operations. So at the rate you are going, the reprogrammable memory device could fail in a couple of years' time, and it will be expensive to repair. Whereas for most people who only reprogram the OS say 4 times a year, the reprogrammable memory chip will last 250 years or more.

Best regards,
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mrkorg wrote:
Like yourself, I'm no techie. Just a thought then, if you bought your Pa800 brand new, couldn't the dealer install the new OS for you? That way, if he messes it up (which I would hope he wouldn't) then it's up to him to get it in there and working properly
Giner, It depends when the keyboard was manufactured. It isn't the dealer's responsibility to install the latest OS, it is the manufacturesrs job. I don't think Korg has manufactured any Pa800's with the new OS installed in them. Remember the new OS came out a month ago. Music stores will sell what they have in stock.
And after all it's a free update with the documentation for installing it. In most cases what people forget to do is to save their set and after updating musical resources they lose their settings. Everything else is simple to do. And rarely it could happen that the files aren't downloaded correctly so it's good to have previous software just in case.
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Rob Sherratt wrote:The re-programmable memory in which the OS is stored has a finite lifetime, rated in terms of a few thousand reprogram operations. So at the rate you are going, the reprogrammable memory device could fail in a couple of years' time, and it will be expensive to repair. Whereas for most people who only reprogram the OS say 4 times a year, the reprogrammable memory chip will last 250 years or more.
Interesting. Thanks for the info Rob it is very beneficial. Although i wonder who will keep their keyboard for > 250 years or what the technology will be then. I guess none of us will be around to see it. :P
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mrkorg wrote:
Like yourself, I'm no techie. Just a thought then, if you bought your Pa800 brand new, couldn't the dealer install the new OS for you? That way, if he messes it up (which I would hope he wouldn't) then it's up to him to get it in there and working properly
Giner, It depends when the keyboard was manufactured. It isn't the dealer's responsibility to install the latest OS, it is the manufacturesrs job. I don't think Korg has manufactured any Pa800's with the new OS installed in them. Remember the new OS came out a month ago. Music stores will sell what they have in stock.

Hi mrkorg,

Yes, I agree with you, but I was just thinking along the lines of the dealer offering upgrades as a service, much like offering repair services, etc., and for me, it's something of which I'd take advantage.
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Although i wonder who will keep their keyboard for > 250 years
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Rob Sherratt wrote:
nabil_kh2 wrote:im new to korg too, this is my firdst professional arranger coming from a casio keyboard. theres some great help here changing OS is really simple and easy i usualy change OS a few tiomes a week even multiple times in a day once u get the hang of it, theres really nothing to it especially with this forum as support.
Hello Nabil,

I'm glad you got to grips with performing OS updates. However you should not need to do this any more frequently that once every six months or so - just whenever Korg re-issue a new version. You say you usually change your OS a few times each week and sometimes several times a day. I can't understand why this is necessary and it seems like a very bad idea to me! Let me explain ...

The re-programmable memory in which the OS is stored has a finite lifetime, rated in terms of a few thousand reprogram operations. So at the rate you are going, the reprogrammable memory device could fail in a couple of years' time, and it will be expensive to repair. Whereas for most people who only reprogram the OS say 4 times a year, the reprogrammable memory chip will last 250 years or more.

Best regards,
Rob



Hi rob

thanks for the info, but just to piont out i chnaged os on a weekly/daily basis wen i was fixing up my pcm problem because it would take over each other, but i havnt changed os2 came out.

thanks

P.S nice to no that sum1 cares for my keyboard besides me :D
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Post by maxpesh »

Hi jermac, just remember when you extract the zip files, make sure you use winzip and NOT winrar. If you use winrar it seems to extract fine but for some reason it does not work, and also if the keyboard says it cannot find the file just pull out the USB stick and put it back in after a few seconds and you will find that it then works fine.
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Thanks Folks

Post by JerMac »

Thanks to you that responded to my help on the operating systems.
I was able to get everything downloaded & unzipoped on to a stick from the computer.
Now I can't seem to get the KorgPA800 to accept the info from the stick.
I put the stick in, turn on the keyboard while holding down the intro 1
button and a system update comes up. It shows an SSDU and when I press that it goes to USB-F. And then when I press that, it goes to documents or PA800 -res-v201 or to system. Down below is USB-F, open, close & select. No progress bar appears. It doesn't matter what
combination of buttons I touch, I get nothing.
Is there a Doctor in the House? Thanks.
A special thanks to the Aussie member MRKORG.
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Post by mrkorg »

Hi JerMac,

Your welcome, Glad to help you :)

It looks like your USB stick is corrupt or it's not copying the PA800_os_v[201].pkg. I can see you do have the “PA800_res_v[201].bkp which is the musical resources but not the OS. Make sure you have copied the PA800_os_v[201].pkg to your USB, if you havent try it again. To make sure you have copied the file, plug the USB into your computer and see if it copied succesfuly.

If you have copied the file and it isn't showing up on the display, press
the GLOBAL button to open the Touch Panel Calibration
page, and re-calibrate the display.

Let us know how it goes.
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