Triton SNG and KSC on the M3

[soulidstate]

Hi there,

I have lots of these files from my Extreme.Unfortunately I cannot open or load them on the M3.Is there already an existing solution to be able to play them?

Thanks in advance.

Regards

[tritex4]

The Extreme's .sng files can't be loaded into the M3.
However, you should be able to load the sample files with no problem.
If you can't, check with Korg, as it may be a bug.

The .sng files are usually not compatible between different models.
The exception to this is the Triton line, e.g. Classic, Studio, Extreme.
But the triton .sng files are not compatible with the M3, M50, OASYS, etc.

[BasariStudios]

Nothing is compatible at all, no SNG, no PCG, no COMBI, no KSC, nothing!
Except KMP and thats all about it.

[r12]

KSC imports from TRITON works perfectly for me...

[Sharp]

r12 is correct.

Out of all the KORG keyboards there are including arrangers, the Pa-Series are the only keyboards that do not support KSC files. Everything else that has a sampler does.

Regards.
Sharp

[BasariStudios]

Maybe my mistake, never tried that but in my knowledhe and understanding,
isn't it the same? Whats the use of the KFC? It just loads multiple KMPs at once.
Which in reality is still supporting only KMP. Unless i am wrong again.

[Rob Sherratt]

Please have sympathy for Pa keyboard owners. We can't even load backup files for user sounds and styles saved on previous OS's for the same keyboard.

It's kinda like Microsoft releasing a new version of the Office suite with the aded "bonus" that no user documents created using previous versions of Word, Excel, Powerpoint can be loaded.

I wondered for a long time about this, and now that I own an M3 and I used to own a Pa2x, I have what I think is the correct definition for "Workstation" and "Arranger":

Workstation:

1. The manufacturer assumes that customers might use one of these for professional work, so tries to make sure the user's files can be reused as much as possible. Conversion utilities are provided whenever a change of file format is absolutely necessary, and the file formats are published so that users can manage and maintain the work they produce.

2. There is a possibility a "workstation" might be seen on stage, so the manufacturer tries to make sure it doesn't hang up or otherwise make any embarassing noises of its own when used in front of an audience.

3. Any "on/off" or "panic" buttons are well hidden since they don't get used by anybody. In the rare event that the machine suffers a heart failure by losing its operating system, then a new one can be plugged in for $20.

Arranger:

1. The manufacturer assumes that customers are amateurs who will not use these for professional work. User's files are an unnecessary encumberance, to be discarded or made incompatible at every conceiveable opportunity. Because user's data is very dangerous to the operating system of the keyboard, the file encryption format is changed every day to reduce the likelihood that users will be able to load any files into the machine. File formats are encrypted using 3DES 1024 bit algorithms to prevent any possibility that the user can decode the files and convert the data to make it compatible.

2. Because it is unlikely that an "arranger" would ever be seen on stage, then it is only necessary for the product to work reliably for periods of an hour or so at maximum. After that, it doesn't matter too much if the product plays stuck notes or makes embarassing noises all on its own. The user should treat the mains "on/off" button just like any other key on the keyboard. It should ideally be played at the start of every bar.

3. Arrangers have a big red knob labelled "don't panic". If the user presses this knob (also labelled NAND format on some machines), then it causes instant heart failure. All user files and settings are purged, the operating system is wiped clean, and the user has to purchase a new motherboard costing over $500.

[BasariStudios]

LOL!

[KorgPH]

Hi there,

I have lots of these files from my Extreme.Unfortunately I cannot open or load them on the M3.Is there already an existing solution to be able to play them?

Thanks in advance.

Regards

Em, no way we can load Triton SNG into M3 because of the sequencer resolution. The only way around would be to save the Triton sequences as MID files.

[Wendel]

Rob,

Arrangers are used on stage. They are very common unless you are talking about the cheap ones, the same applies to cheap workstations.

[Rob Sherratt]

Rob,

Arrangers are used on stage. They are very common unless you are talking about the cheap ones, the same applies to cheap workstations.

Hi Wendel,

I know that, you know that, but some manufacturers apparently don't know that. At the moment I can't use my Pa2x on stage. Three times freezing already. I won't risk it again unless the product is re-engineered so it becomes reliable enough for stage use by Korg.

Oh, and the Pa2x is not cheap!

Regards,
Rob