EMX-1 Struggling with learning curve, simple questions

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bendodd
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EMX-1 Struggling with learning curve, simple questions

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Hey guys, got my emx-1 about 2 weeks ago trying to fit learning it within work im finding difficult, but I have a few questions as I'm struggling with the curve to mastering it.

1) The synth notes, what not represents each key? I know all notes on a keyboard etc as I've played piano, just wondering if there was a pic to show what number represents what note.

2) Is there a way to delete all the preset songs but keep the preset sounds? So I could just press record and use the sound and not hear the demo?

3) If no to question 2, how do I copy the preset sound from one place to an empty slot?


Sorry if these questions seem really basic, I'm just trying to get to grips with it, so go easy :)

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Post by BatterieslikeBullets »

well
first
the notes go from A- C
the black number pads represent the sharps on a keyboard
so 1=A 2= A# ect ect

second the electribe is not really about preset sounds but rather self producing the sounds you wantt. Though it may seem hard right now i suggest you read the manual and watch people on youtube and play this box whenever you can so that you can really get the feel. Trust me soon you will be listenin to one of your favorite songs and be thinkin
"i probably can get that sound using a saw wave with a touch of compression and reverb" XD


Also the record button doesnt record sounds, rather note numbers and how long they play. the sounds are remembered by the parts (someone else correct me if i am wrong)

i actually dont know how you would copy sounds from other patterns and put them together. If you liked the sounds from only one patern though, you can rewrite the pattern onto a INit pattern and delete all the info except the sound and start from there.

Im sorry im writin so much, its just that i ended up doin all this myself wishin there was someone to help me. But really this box is all about CREATING not copying. Get in touch with that side of your head my friend

and welcome to fun fascinating world of electribes!
feel free to ask anymore questions ill try to answer them XD
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Post by bendodd »

First of all, thanks for responding mate :D


So say I want to 'copy' a sound from a pattern and use it elsewhere as you say write it in an INit pattern, how do I go about doing this?


Another question is how do I change it to the maximum amount of bars possible?


Cheers

Ben
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Post by Tarekith »

You have to realize that the EMX is different from other gear, in that there's no real concept of separate sounds and patterns. In the EMX, they are all saved together as a part (the sound and the sequencing for each "track". But, you can copy a part from one pattern to another. Go to the destination pattern, and select the part you want to copy TO. Press Shift+Button4, scroll to the SOURCE PATTERN and select the SOURCE PART. Press Button 4 again.

Press the Pattern Button above the record key, then press the down arrow that's right to the left of that a few times. You'll see on the display after a couple presses the screen that lets you change the pattern length from 1-8 bars. Not to be rud emind you, but have you tried reading the manual yet? It really does help a lot IMO.
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Tarekith wrote:You have to realize that the EMX is different from other gear, in that there's no real concept of separate sounds and patterns. In the EMX, they are all saved together as a part (the sound and the sequencing for each "track". But, you can copy a part from one pattern to another. Go to the destination pattern, and select the part you want to copy TO. Press Shift+Button4, scroll to the SOURCE PATTERN and select the SOURCE PART. Press Button 4 again.

Press the Pattern Button above the record key, then press the down arrow that's right to the left of that a few times. You'll see on the display after a couple presses the screen that lets you change the pattern length from 1-8 bars. Not to be rud emind you, but have you tried reading the manual yet? It really does help a lot IMO.

Thanks for your help will try all this soon, It didn't come with a manual :D It was second hand.

I think I've got the correct one from online and I'm partway reading it trying to learn as I go :)
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Post by bendodd »

Right for example say I want to use the sounds from B.13

I go to B13 press SHIFT and key 4, then go to the destination er D.64 an empty one and press 4 again, I can't seem to copy the sounds :?
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You're not following my instructions :) You need to be in the pattern you want to copy sounds TO before pressing shift+4, not the pattern with the sounds you want. It's a bit backwards, I know. Say you want to copy sounds from B13 to A45. You need to be in A45, then press SHIFT+4, select pattern B13 with the data wheel, and highlight the tracks you want to copy. Press 4 again and now all the sounds you highlighted in B13 will be in A45.
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Post by BatterieslikeBullets »

whoaaa
i didnt even know you can copy sounds between patterns

must of skipped that in the manual XD
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Post by bendodd »

I'm getting the hang of this a bit more now, one question, how do I save the sound's ive moved to say D.64?

It says protect error
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bendodd wrote:I'm getting the hang of this a bit more now, one question, how do I save the sound's ive moved to say D.64?

It says protect error
Sounds like you need to turn off write protect.Just go into global and disable it.Now save you pattern. :wink:
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Post by bendodd »

Right thanks so much for your help!

I'm really enjoying myself using this bad boy now.

I'm a bit stuck at the moment, how do I add pitch/glide to a note on step record? So the same pitch / glide motion happens each time i open it up again.

Also how do I add an affect on step edit such a reverb to a single synth sound not global reverb to everything?



Thanks ben
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Re: EMX-1 Struggling with learning curve, simple questions

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This may sound a little childish and nieve but essentially there's nothing wrong with pushing all the buttons, turning all the knobs and recording what sounds good. Reading and understanding the manual is important but it's so easy to over-analyze the EMX. I call it paralysis by analysis. lol Seriously, after you have the basic idea of how the instrument works just kick back with a bud and f*ck around with it. When you stumble across some cool s**t, record it. Truth is, alot of my best music are merely a collection of happy accidents!
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bendodd wrote:Right thanks so much for your help!

I'm really enjoying myself using this bad boy now.

I'm a bit stuck at the moment, how do I add pitch/glide to a note on step record? So the same pitch / glide motion happens each time i open it up again.

Also how do I add an affect on step edit such a reverb to a single synth sound not global reverb to everything?



Thanks ben
Sorry ben, forgot to reply! I think you would record that with the motion sequencer. You need to activate motion seq, arm record and as the sequence is playing back, turn the knob of the control you want and it will be recorded as a motion sequence, it's a bit like automation. Then if you go into step edit MotValue should be flashing with the amount for the current step and you can change the value for each step you recorded the motion for. :)

I thought there was afault with the timing on mine but you have to start moving the control as soon as you hit record.

I haven't used it much but it should be the same for the controls you can record so i hope this is right!

You have to turn on send for the part you want for the effect to active so if reverb is Fx1 selct Fx1 under part common and activate Fx send. The only thing you can't change is the send amount which your supposed to do with the part volume afaik.

Hope this helps!
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Post by bendodd »

Cheers for the replies lad, got another question (haven't I always :))

I read what you said about adding effects say I want to add reverb to a snare, is that possible ? Doesn't seem to work when I click FX1 and turn the fx1 up :?


Also can you get MIDI to usb cables?

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bendodd wrote:Cheers for the replies lad, got another question (haven't I always :))

I read what you said about adding effects say I want to add reverb to a snare, is that possible ? Doesn't seem to work when I click FX1 and turn the fx1 up :?


Also can you get MIDI to usb cables?

Ben
1.press the part with the snare.
2. press "fx select" and then "fx send" so that either Fx 1, 2 or 3 light up (right above the "fx send" button)
3. press "edit select"
4. turn the big dial to "reverb"
5. set reverb time and depth by turning the "fx edit" 1 and 2 buttons until you get the sound you want.

if you want both, say reverb and then delay, simply do what I said above, then press "edit select" so that FX 2 (above the "edit select" button) lights up, then choose "delay" (or any other effect you want), and set the desired values. then press "fx chain", so that the light between "fx 1" and "fx 2" (the ones above "FX chain") light up. now the machine sends the sound first through the reverb, and then to the delay, so you get two effects. you can "chain" effects, up to 3 effects at once. a very useful feature to create some space between parts :)

hope this helps :)
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