Cymb roll with long cresc

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Cymb roll with long cresc

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What is the best way of putting an cymbol roll with an 8 beat big crescendo into the sequencer. I bash the keys repeatedly at a slower tempo and speed it up. There must be a better way (treat my way kindly, people!!)
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ashboe wrote:What is the best way of putting an cymbol roll with an 8 beat big crescendo into the sequencer. I bash the keys repeatedly at a slower tempo and speed it up. There must be a better way (treat my way kindly, people!!)
Sean
Fortunately, the cymbals sounds on the M3 as well as the Triton series don't re-trigger themselves at each hit, so you don't get that cut off sound at each hit. I've done some convincing rolls by hitting two different keys on a kit. But my best cymbal roll comes from a sampled one from a Sabian cymbal sample cd.
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Sometimes you do get the sense of a sample re-triggering, especially when you reach high velocities.

What I've done sometimes is to increase the attack time of the drumkit, so that you don't hear the very start of the sample. You can do this by using one of the Sliders, or by using Tone Adjust. Of course, this affects the whole drumkit, so if there are other drum sounds playing while the cymbal is doing the crescendo, then you'll have to put the cymbal on a different MIDI track.

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Post by ski »

Suggestion:

Go into sequencer mode and assign the Standard Studio Kit to a timbre. Assign one of the real-time sliders to CC#7 or CC#11. Start with the slider down almost all the way and start the sequencer so that you get a click. Play a tremolo of C#4 and A4 (if memory serves), riding the volume up from just a little above zero towards maximum volume as you play. You could also try moving the cutoff slider instead of riding volume. Anyway, once you get a feel for producing a swell cymbal that way, record some takes in the sequencer. When you get one that feels right, re-sample it (it'll probably take up a bit of memory tho). Then assign that new sample to a new program.

As suggested above, you might also try softening the attack on the sound as well. Set up one of the slider to do F/A attack if it's not already programmed, and try the same tremolo/volume ride combination.
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Post by ashboe »

Wow, Ski, many thanks for that!!! And call me thick, but I would never have thought to re-sample the sound once it was done properly. This will save me so much time in future!! Thanks
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