salam guys
i have been trying to record me songs in my computer but i dont no of a good quality recording software to be downloaded free online, can anyone please help,/''
much apprecaited,
KAREEM l:)
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Re: recording software
REAPERkareem wrote:salam guys
i have been trying to record me songs in my computer but i dont no of a good quality recording software to be downloaded free online, can anyone please help,/''
much apprecaited,
KAREEM l:)
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Rob Sherratt
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Hi Kareem,
If you want professional quality results then an external hard disk recorder/mixer to interface to your PC via USB2 is best. For example, take a look at the Zoom HD16 recorder, which is also bundled with Cubase LT ...
http://www.musictechmag.co.uk/mtm/reviews/hd16
You can get one of these for about 500 Euros. It will allow you to record 8 channels simultaneously as 8 separate files on the HD. That is a great advantage because you will want to decide on final levels and EQ and FX from your PC-based software later (eg Cubase). Via the USB2 interface, an external HD recorder will appear to your PC like a very large external hard disk.
It is also possible to record into your PC using a sound card, for example the Sound Blaster X-Fi Extreme Music. However you will be limited to one stereo channel at a time, and you may have to budget for a new internal HD drive and an external mixing desk. You will not be able to edit the levels and EQ and FX for individual channels later. So I don't think this solution will give you professional results.
Best regards,
Rob
If you want professional quality results then an external hard disk recorder/mixer to interface to your PC via USB2 is best. For example, take a look at the Zoom HD16 recorder, which is also bundled with Cubase LT ...
http://www.musictechmag.co.uk/mtm/reviews/hd16
You can get one of these for about 500 Euros. It will allow you to record 8 channels simultaneously as 8 separate files on the HD. That is a great advantage because you will want to decide on final levels and EQ and FX from your PC-based software later (eg Cubase). Via the USB2 interface, an external HD recorder will appear to your PC like a very large external hard disk.
It is also possible to record into your PC using a sound card, for example the Sound Blaster X-Fi Extreme Music. However you will be limited to one stereo channel at a time, and you may have to budget for a new internal HD drive and an external mixing desk. You will not be able to edit the levels and EQ and FX for individual channels later. So I don't think this solution will give you professional results.
Best regards,
Rob
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Hi Kareem,
Also if all you want to do is to record from the Pa800, then maybe the dual MP3 recording board for the Pa800 is worth considering. At the highest quality setting it will give results indistinguishable from CD recordings. However you will have to get the levels and EQ correct at the time you record, you cannot fix it later.
You can also mix in a stereo input from an external mixing desk if you have friends on other instruments to record at the same time.
Best regards,
Rob
Also if all you want to do is to record from the Pa800, then maybe the dual MP3 recording board for the Pa800 is worth considering. At the highest quality setting it will give results indistinguishable from CD recordings. However you will have to get the levels and EQ correct at the time you record, you cannot fix it later.
You can also mix in a stereo input from an external mixing desk if you have friends on other instruments to record at the same time.
Best regards,
Rob
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Hi Kareem,kareem wrote:i have the adobe audition cool edit pro in my computer and i wanted to use my mixing disk Mackie dfx12 into my computer but gives me lots of his and him sounds without puting them in channels, am just using jack to jack wires.
Does your connection lead have a single stereo mini jack on one end for connection to the PC line in, and two mono quarter inch jack plugs on the other end for connection to your mixing desk? If so, try disconnecting the earth wire from the mini stereo jack at the PC end. See if that removes the hum.
Does your computer play audio CD's without hum? It uses a similar input to the line in socket.
Regards,
Rob
I agree, you dont need external hard disk recorders when you have a big hard disk already on your PC. Just get one of the inexpensive USB/Audio interfaces, even the Behringer UCA 200 would do a much much better job than the standard PC sound card and its cheap. Actually for the money, it does an exceptional job. The Edirol boxes as Choros suggests are also an excellent way of getting clean audio into your PC.
Dennis
PS- most of the audio interface devices come with all the ASIO/WDM drivers you need to get up and running. ASIO4ALL is more to use the inbuilt soundcard via ASIO
Dennis
PS- most of the audio interface devices come with all the ASIO/WDM drivers you need to get up and running. ASIO4ALL is more to use the inbuilt soundcard via ASIO
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Hi Kareem,
You said that you want to do professional audio recording, and I think it is difficult to achieve professional results with vocals and accompaniment unless you can record at least four mono or two stereo channels onto separate tracks simultaneously, and then process and mix down these audio tracks on the PC later. That's why I recommended the slightly more expensive "external" solution using the Zoom HD16 multi-track recorder which provides 8 simultaneous audio track recording capability, and which comes bundled with Cubase LT.
Each of the 8 audio channels can be recorded into its own digital audio track. You can then use the supplied Cubase LT software to "mix down" each separate track into a final mix, and you can edit each audio track individually as you go, getting rid of any spurious coughs, umms, clicks, arhems, or whatever that may have been picked up by microphones. Also you can add FX and EQ and fade-in and fade-outs to each track during the editing process.
So, for example, in producing the three "Korg Arranger Secrets" DVD's we achieved very high quality audio with three A/V channels recorded onto MINI DV tape, and one studio microphone (narrator) channel, and two keyboard (Pa1x) channels recorded "dry" simultaneously as separate audio tracks onto Chris Whitehead's HD recorder. There was a huge amount of editing of the five digital audio tracks that we had to do later (in fact using Adobe Premier) to achieve the high quality low noise final result that is on the DVD's.
Hi Keys and Choros,
I agree what you said is the cheapest solution for single stereo channel recording onto the PC's hard disk. It will give high quality but with many shortcomings on what you can do with only a single stereo track "final mix" recording capability.
I could not find a suitable interface card and software solution to record more than one stereo channel simultaneously onto a PC hard disk. If you do come across an 8 channel PC card solution that is cheaper than the Zoom HD16 then please let me know?
Also I am curious - if a single stereo channel recording capability fits you requirements, wouldn't it be far simpler to fit the MP3 recording card into your Pa1x, and record everything as high quality .mp3 onto the Pa1x's hard disk?
Best regards,
Rob
You said that you want to do professional audio recording, and I think it is difficult to achieve professional results with vocals and accompaniment unless you can record at least four mono or two stereo channels onto separate tracks simultaneously, and then process and mix down these audio tracks on the PC later. That's why I recommended the slightly more expensive "external" solution using the Zoom HD16 multi-track recorder which provides 8 simultaneous audio track recording capability, and which comes bundled with Cubase LT.
Each of the 8 audio channels can be recorded into its own digital audio track. You can then use the supplied Cubase LT software to "mix down" each separate track into a final mix, and you can edit each audio track individually as you go, getting rid of any spurious coughs, umms, clicks, arhems, or whatever that may have been picked up by microphones. Also you can add FX and EQ and fade-in and fade-outs to each track during the editing process.
So, for example, in producing the three "Korg Arranger Secrets" DVD's we achieved very high quality audio with three A/V channels recorded onto MINI DV tape, and one studio microphone (narrator) channel, and two keyboard (Pa1x) channels recorded "dry" simultaneously as separate audio tracks onto Chris Whitehead's HD recorder. There was a huge amount of editing of the five digital audio tracks that we had to do later (in fact using Adobe Premier) to achieve the high quality low noise final result that is on the DVD's.
Hi Keys and Choros,
I agree what you said is the cheapest solution for single stereo channel recording onto the PC's hard disk. It will give high quality but with many shortcomings on what you can do with only a single stereo track "final mix" recording capability.
I could not find a suitable interface card and software solution to record more than one stereo channel simultaneously onto a PC hard disk. If you do come across an 8 channel PC card solution that is cheaper than the Zoom HD16 then please let me know?
Also I am curious - if a single stereo channel recording capability fits you requirements, wouldn't it be far simpler to fit the MP3 recording card into your Pa1x, and record everything as high quality .mp3 onto the Pa1x's hard disk?
Best regards,
Rob
Hi Rob,
I was only giving him a quick solution to getting him recording, even though its only one stereo track, personally I run a multi-in audio interface with 12 tracks in and out via Sonar 7. There is no doubt the Zoom is a good bit of gear, and in my view, great if thats all you are going to use, but the OP seemed to me to be looking to utilise his PC in this endeavour. I could recommend several audio/midi interfaces in either USB or firewire that could replicate the zoom and be cheaper than its $1800 (AUD) asking price, but having said that he would still need the audio software, vis-a-vis Sonar Cubase etc etc.
Whilst the quality of the 320kbps MP3 level in teh Korg is excellent, it is still an MP3 file and as such would need conversion on any audio software back to a wave before processing, not to mention that the MP3 recording still does not give multiple tracks.
Dennis
I was only giving him a quick solution to getting him recording, even though its only one stereo track, personally I run a multi-in audio interface with 12 tracks in and out via Sonar 7. There is no doubt the Zoom is a good bit of gear, and in my view, great if thats all you are going to use, but the OP seemed to me to be looking to utilise his PC in this endeavour. I could recommend several audio/midi interfaces in either USB or firewire that could replicate the zoom and be cheaper than its $1800 (AUD) asking price, but having said that he would still need the audio software, vis-a-vis Sonar Cubase etc etc.
Whilst the quality of the 320kbps MP3 level in teh Korg is excellent, it is still an MP3 file and as such would need conversion on any audio software back to a wave before processing, not to mention that the MP3 recording still does not give multiple tracks.
Dennis
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Hey Dennis,keys wrote:I could recommend several audio/midi interfaces in either USB or firewire that could replicate the zoom and be cheaper than its $1800 (AUD) asking price, but having said that he would still need the audio software, vis-a-vis Sonar Cubase etc etc.
Very helpful comments, do you have a recording studio?
Please could you send me details of any solution that can record 4 or 8 simultaneous audio channels onto PC or external HD Must include the software to at least capture the simultaneous tracks and provide visual feedback during recording to ensure no red lining. I already have Adobe Premier for post production editing.
Based on a friend's recommendation who has an HD16, I was about to purchase one of these, but if you can specify something as good and cheaper then that will be v helpful to me.
Many thanks,
Rob
Hi Rob,
I have a small home studio that I record original songs and covers.
It is a non-commercial venture, and whilst I have some knowledge on recording I am in no way an expert.
Although, one definition of an expert is that: ex is an unknown factor, and a spurt is a drip under pressure!! LOL ..anyhoo I digress..
Any of the major DAW software programs will do the job, as I said Sonar, Cubase, Tracktion from Mackie, FL Studio..even the budget Sonar Home Studio, or the LE versions of Sonar , Cubase and others will allow multiple tracking, thats the software side, add the PC and then add any hardware interface with at least the number of "ins" that you require.
Alternatively you can look at the combo mixers that are now available. These function as a normal mixer, however either by firewire or USB can transmit each of their channels to your DAW in digital form at varying bit rates and sample rates.
Yamaha have released a new range of these, if I remember correctly they have a N in the name, like N12, N16 or something like that, go to www.yamahasynth.com to get some more info.
Phonic make an excellent well priced unit called the Helixboard Firewire series, Mackie have their Onyx range...That is to name just 3 then there are the specific audio interfaces from Edirol, M-Audio, E-Mu, MOTU and many more...
You are in the UK, why not try say Dolphin Music http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/page/shop/index who are an online store and check out their range of audio recording gear, at least then you can see pics and get a better idea of what I am talking about, PLUS pretty ,much all the audio interfaces have included in the software bundle a light version of Sonar or cubase or whatever, all of which allow multiple tracking with full monitoring both visual and audio.
Also, if you are genuinely interested is to google audio interfaces and then be prepared for the avalanche of whats available.
The stand-alone hard disk recorder is a great tool, and they work really really well, and I reckon they are still in use everywhere.
I am not saying the PC DAW is better or worse, I am merely suggesting it as an alternative. It can get people into home recording with reasonable quality in a pretty cheap way, or excellent quality if you go for more upmarket outboard gear.
Hope that helps some, and sorry for the long post,
cheers
Dennis
I have a small home studio that I record original songs and covers.
It is a non-commercial venture, and whilst I have some knowledge on recording I am in no way an expert.
Although, one definition of an expert is that: ex is an unknown factor, and a spurt is a drip under pressure!! LOL ..anyhoo I digress..
Any of the major DAW software programs will do the job, as I said Sonar, Cubase, Tracktion from Mackie, FL Studio..even the budget Sonar Home Studio, or the LE versions of Sonar , Cubase and others will allow multiple tracking, thats the software side, add the PC and then add any hardware interface with at least the number of "ins" that you require.
Alternatively you can look at the combo mixers that are now available. These function as a normal mixer, however either by firewire or USB can transmit each of their channels to your DAW in digital form at varying bit rates and sample rates.
Yamaha have released a new range of these, if I remember correctly they have a N in the name, like N12, N16 or something like that, go to www.yamahasynth.com to get some more info.
Phonic make an excellent well priced unit called the Helixboard Firewire series, Mackie have their Onyx range...That is to name just 3 then there are the specific audio interfaces from Edirol, M-Audio, E-Mu, MOTU and many more...
You are in the UK, why not try say Dolphin Music http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/page/shop/index who are an online store and check out their range of audio recording gear, at least then you can see pics and get a better idea of what I am talking about, PLUS pretty ,much all the audio interfaces have included in the software bundle a light version of Sonar or cubase or whatever, all of which allow multiple tracking with full monitoring both visual and audio.
Also, if you are genuinely interested is to google audio interfaces and then be prepared for the avalanche of whats available.
The stand-alone hard disk recorder is a great tool, and they work really really well, and I reckon they are still in use everywhere.
I am not saying the PC DAW is better or worse, I am merely suggesting it as an alternative. It can get people into home recording with reasonable quality in a pretty cheap way, or excellent quality if you go for more upmarket outboard gear.
Hope that helps some, and sorry for the long post,
cheers
Dennis