Using sliders as drawbars, ribbon sensitivity & step rec

Animal · Post by **Animal** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:33 am

Hi!

I have three questions for you. First, can I use M3' sliders as drawbars for organ sounds and if so, then how many of them support this feature? I've read that in case of Motif XS, not all of the organ sounds have the ability to let the drawbars moved. As far as I know, M3 doesn't have a special clonewheel organ application like Oasis does.

Secondly, what do you say about the sensitivity of M3's ribbon controller? There is a topic about the Oasys' ribbon, it needs some pressure to work correctly and so does Triton Extreme. Unfortunately I'm not able to test M3, as well as most of the synths I'm interested in, not many keyboards are in stock in my local music stores. But if you try to compare M3's ribbon with a laptop's touchpad, does the M3 need significantly harder pressure to work smoothly?

And finally - does the M3 have a step recording feature in the sequencer?

r12 · Post by **r12** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:38 pm

you could use sliders as drawbars in SEQ or COMBI mode by assigning these sliders and value slider (9 sliders for 9 drawbars) to track volume and a SW to switch perc, but you need to have separate programs for each drawbar with a dedicated sample
these samples are not in ROM

but YOU CAN...emulate this

Animal · Post by **Animal** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:55 pm

Thanks.. So I need to get new samples somewhere for that, right?
And can anyone say something about the ribbon and step recording?

r12 · Post by **r12** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:34 pm

at first, for example, you can simulate drawbars with sine waves (it's not a real drawbar but better than nothing) and add a 11th program with key-click and key-off and use real samples later (when you will get them)
so : 9 programs for drawbars
1 program for perc (a sine pitched like 5th drawbar with short decay and a percussion sample)
1 program for key off

for ribbon an d step rec

MyMusic · Post by **MyMusic** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:19 pm

i've done something similar for the Triton extreme, but used an organ sample (like a 16' hammond drawbar sample) instead of a sine wave. You can transpose these samples in combi mode to make them sound like the correct drawbars setting (i.e. the 8' bar would be an octave higher, the 5/13 bar would be (i think) 7 semi tones higher, etc). most instruments come with a basic organ tone like the 16' bar.

KarmaKazi · Post by **KarmaKazi** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:24 pm

Just a related note:

"M3_ExtSetups_E1.pdf" is a PDF that covers external settings: M3 with Korg and other manufacturers' software. http://www.korg.com/service/downloadinfo.asp?DID=1246

Page 6 has the Native Instruments B4 & B4 II. It has 2 scenes (A and B) set up; the B scenes are for the traditional drawbar interface.

I don't have these particular soft-synths to test, but it might be helpful as a template to use on what you may have available.

Your Mileage May Vary,

KarmaKazi

Animal · Post by **Animal** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:40 am

Hey,

I'll bounce my old topic. I'm just wondering if anybody has found some great Hammond drawbar samples that could be set separately to each slider, plus key click and percussion? How the M3's built in organ patches sound in general?

Voltan · Post by **Voltan** » Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:22 pm

You might wanna check this out for the drawbars:
http://www.karma-lab.com/forum/showthre ... adid=10942

As for the ribbon - it does need some pressure