Master transpose with midi / bug in Song mode?

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400nvd
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Master transpose with midi / bug in Song mode?

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Hi everyone,
I'm trying to transpose my PA4x with midi or sysex commands. I'm using an iPad to select setups in my gear on stage.

the upgrade manual says:
  • Master Transpose and Quarter Tone Scales sent and received
    via MIDI
    Master Transpose and Quarter Tone Scale settings are now sent and received
    via MIDI.
    ▪▪ Master Transpose is in a standard format, that can be received by all GMcompliant
    devices.
    ▪▪ Quarter Tone Scale settings are in a proprietary format, that can be understood
    by all Pa-Series instruments including this feature.


So, what cc or gm code do I have to use for this actions,

I tried with sysex which is working well in style, sequencer and sound mode but not in song mode.
Sysex for transposing:
.....
F0 7F 7F 04 04 00 3D --> -3
F0 7F 7F 04 04 00 3E --> -2
F0 7F 7F 04 04 00 3F --> -1
F0 7F 7F 04 04 00 40 --> transpose back to 0 = same as pushing - and +
F0 7F 7F 04 04 00 41 --> +1
F0 7F 7F 04 04 00 42 --> +2
F0 7F 7F 04 04 00 43 --> +3
... and so on ....

What can I do to get transpose by sysex in song mode working or other solutions
Hope for some help here
NoëlHammond SKpro, Korg PA4x,
HK Elements, HK Nano iPad pro
siebenhirter
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Re: Master transpose with midi / bug in Song mode?

Post by siebenhirter »

400nvd wrote: I tried with sysex which is working well in style, sequencer and sound mode but not in song mode.
What can I do to get transpose by sysex in song mode working or other solutions
When a Pa-Keyboard is saving a song as SMF, all parameters are converted to ordinary track parameters, but Pa-Keyboards exclusive data are converted to SysEx or MetaEvents, you can find in header or master-track of these SMFs. Each time you start a song with a Pa-Keyboard this header will be read - if an an Master Coarse Tuning is inside it will be used and executed.

I think it is a very impolite violation from Korg against her customers not to publish the format of the SysEx-header each korg-specific SMF contains. So each customer interested in has to analyze inconveniently how to set track parameters for settings of equalizer, fx-effects, play-/mute-status, volumes, pan, fx-send, easy-program-edits, track-mode etc.

Below you will find an example of some sentences from a typical sysex-header in a SMF written with a Pa-Keyboard. It is easily recognizable that the first sentence is to control the overall tuning of a MIDI device, as that format is nothing korg-specific but an "Real Time Universal Sys Ex". So change value of first sentence in Header of your song to get transposed as you like in songplay mode.

Example:
F0 7F 7F 04 04 00 40 F7; Master Coarse Tuning, val = 64 (---> A = 440 Hz)
F0 42 7F 60 00 01 00 10 00 00 ....... F7; Eq-Settings Tr 1
F0 42 7F 60 00 01 00 10 00 01 ....... F7; Eq-Settings Tr 2
F0 42 7F 60 00 01 00 10 00 02 ....... F7; Eq-Settings Tr 3
F0 42 7F 60 00 01 00 08 00 .... F7; Drum-Family-Volumes
F0 42 7F 60 00 01 00 02 01 ...F7; FX-A-parameters
F0 42 7F 60 00 01 00 04 00 .. F7; Track-Settings Poly/Mono
kind regards
- siebenhirter, austria -

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400nvd
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Post by 400nvd »

Thanks Siebenhirter, with your help I have now more understanding of what is going on.

Noël
NoëlHammond SKpro, Korg PA4x,
HK Elements, HK Nano iPad pro
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