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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:53 am
by John Carpenter
My advice is to get a camera that has an 1/8 audio input. The cheap cameras don't have it. Your signal will be way to hot for it, so you need a mixer to lower the volume. That's how I have done my videos. I get pretty good results, if you want to check out on my myspace site.
I have not tried the method of recording audio and video separately and combine them later yet, I would think you would have to cut the clips, drag them around a bit, render the movie, and see if everything lines up.
The main thing you want to avoid is using the cameras on board mike.
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 2:57 am
by fac
I just bought a Samsung MX10A which is quite decent, although it doesn't have many features. It stores in its internal flash memory or in SD cards, which is quite cool since you can transfer to the PC via USB quite fast, and it uses no mobile parts for the storage.
One downside is that it has no audio input, but since it can be used as a PC cam, I can record right into the PC using my soundcards audio input.
I've already filmed a couple videos with it, one of them using my ER-1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUStqDAQL4k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4l2-FwHMnY
Prior to this, I was using my laptop's webcam. Here's one example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPYw1Y9Lb0A
I believe the MX10 has better quality. Now I have to find a tripod for it.
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:53 am
by musikmachine
Ruso wrote:I don't have a particular software, I'm not really into videos. But I have done i t before a looong time ago. I cant' remember.
The nice feature is you can record stereo sound that goes into your sound card. So even if your camera does not have an audio input, this will provide it.
Could you explain how it works with the webcam?Do you select your soundcard as the audio device and record the stream via that?Sounds like i can get good recordings with a minimum amount of fuss

Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 12:14 pm
by musikmachine
John Carpenter wrote:My advice is to get a camera that has an 1/8 audio input. The cheap cameras don't have it. Your signal will be way to hot for it, so you need a mixer to lower the volume. That's how I have done my videos. I get pretty good results, if you want to check out on my myspace site.
I have not tried the method of recording audio and video separately and combine them later yet, I would think you would have to cut the clips, drag them around a bit, render the movie, and see if everything lines up.
The main thing you want to avoid is using the cameras on board mike.
Unfortunately i don't have the budget for a better camera.I think the DV007 will meet my needs for now anyway.One of the things i like about it is it's compact.The voice recorder will be great for capturing ideas when i get them.I may even be able to use the camera for field recording and basic sampling...
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 1:19 pm
by Borg
musikmachine wrote:There's only a few reviews but they are very good.I'm beginning to think the audio issue is not so important and i will most likely get something else to capture record the audio.Something like the zoom H4 would cover a lot of application so i'd probably get that instead of an md player...
All i can do is try the camera when i get it!One of the reasons i need it is so i can send clips to friends of mine that run various nights and see if they would want me to play or book me so for that the quality doesn't need to be pristine,just not terrible.
Nice video by the way.How are you recording the audio?Via the mic or the cables?Quality is really good,it 'sounds' live to me.Really like the track as well,you should get that released

Yeah, I used the H4, and highly recommend it. I plugged the ESX-1 to the H4 via the Main Out and had the headphones connected to the H4 (which you should have, so you hear what the recording sound like). Then I just transferred the wav-file to the computer. As simple as that.
Real glad you liked it!
Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:23 pm
by musikmachine
Borg wrote:musikmachine wrote:There's only a few reviews but they are very good.I'm beginning to think the audio issue is not so important and i will most likely get something else to capture record the audio.Something like the zoom H4 would cover a lot of application so i'd probably get that instead of an md player...
All i can do is try the camera when i get it!One of the reasons i need it is so i can send clips to friends of mine that run various nights and see if they would want me to play or book me so for that the quality doesn't need to be pristine,just not terrible.
Nice video by the way.How are you recording the audio?Via the mic or the cables?Quality is really good,it 'sounds' live to me.Really like the track as well,you should get that released

Yeah, I used the H4, and highly recommend it. I plugged the ESX-1 to the H4 via the Main Out and had the headphones connected to the H4 (which you should have, so you hear what the recording sound like). Then I just transferred the wav-file to the computer. As simple as that.
Real glad you liked it!
Y'know,given the problems i've had with sync in Live and the hassle of booting my pc and firing up my daw when i want to record something,i may just get one of these.It's much more efficient.

Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:39 am
by Borg
Do it.

Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:00 am
by musikmachine
Borg wrote:Do it.

Got the camera and at first i was a bit disappointed but it's actually quite good!Not suitable for audio at all but i could maybe lift sounds from it for fx but it's very lofi.I will be getting an echo indigo for my laptop so i'll use that for recording the audio in the meantime
Hey Ruso,can you recommend some webcam software?That would take care of the video if i can record straight to my laptop
Thaks for all the help guys,some nice music vids there as well.Keep rocking those 'tribes!