Nord Stage 3 worship sounds - on Kronos???

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BlackForest
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Re: Nord Stage 3 worship sounds - on Kronos???

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Couple of years down the road, but maybe someone's still interested in this.

I created a moving drone sound in a Combi as follows (writing it off by heart, am not close to my Kronos):

Using 3 programs with a smooth sound on mono (not poly in any case), Hold is switched on. let's call them Drone 1 to 3. Why 3 I tell you further down.
These have a very slow LFO on the Amp and Filter, just very subtle. I used the Guitar waveform for the LFO so no negative values are created and the sound completely disappears.
All three have slightly different LFO speeds to keep the whole thing as organic as possible.
These 3 are put in a Combi with different transposition, 0, 2 and 5 semitones (or was it 0, 2 and 7?). Anyway, it is supposed to form a moving Csus2 chord for example when hitting the C. Am not so good in music theory...:-)
Key range is the last octave of your keyboard.
Especially the sound program for the 2 semitone (the "sus") comes and goes more than the 1 and 5.

With the mono and Hold funtion above you can start a chord and automatically stop and start the next one if you change key.
IFX for the drone have a long delay and reverb setting in order to smoothen out the chord change.

The volume of these 3 is controlled by the verctor stick x-axis, 50% in the centre.

Maybe a better explanation is here:

https://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB3 ... p?t=121112


Piano is the Italian or German Dark. Especially with a strong negative setting on Velocity Intensity (probably -80 or so) and a slight negative on Velocity Bias, probably around -20. With this the pianos sound less harsh and the volume stays loud even if you play quieter parts. As you play harder the sound simply gets brighter.

Then an additional normal pad sound layered with the piano. The volume is controlled by the y-axis of the vector stick, again 50% in the centre.
This pad however is also split into three sounds over 3 key zones (the same sound programs). Each zone is transposed so that there are no "extremes", meaning the lowest pad zone is probably tranposed +2 octaves up, the middle one not transposed, and the highest 1 or 2 octaves down.
In this way it just sounds much smoother when playing in the highest and lowest ranges.

Have a look here https://www.bonedo.de/artikel/layer-sou ... -workshop/ and use google to translate it.

Now happy worshipping :-)
Last edited by BlackForest on Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:40 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: Nord Stage 3 worship sounds - on Kronos???

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One more thing . the drone sounds are wavesequences with slow speeds.

I shall update the exact settings when I am at home.
Kronos 2-88 & X73, Kurzweil MicroPiano, Spitfire Albion V Tundra, BBCO Core, Nylon Guitar Ilya Efimov, Xtant Audio Uilleann Pipes - in use

Testing Modartt Pianoteq..

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Re: Nord Stage 3 worship sounds - on Kronos???

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I've been thinking about RENTING a Nord Stage 3 for a month then sampling the whole thing or as much as I can using SR6 for sometime now. TO be honest if I had the funds I would buy it but I don't think anybody these days has many funds to buy anything..Maybe when things come down in a year or so we will be able to buy these things.
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Re: Nord Stage 3 worship sounds - on Kronos???

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Is the Nord Stage 3/ 4 sampled pianos or modeled?

I've heard some examples and they sound really nice. I also have a Fantom, which is modeled pianos. Lots of ability to tweak the sounds, but I always reach for the Kronos or Montage for pianos as the sampled sounds seem to resonate with me more. Just curious how Nord gets their sounds.
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Re: Nord Stage 3 worship sounds - on Kronos???

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The Nords are all sampled, and in fact with surprisingly low sample sizes.
A real modeled piano is Pianoteq from moddart. State of the art.
Kronos 2-88 & X73, Kurzweil MicroPiano, Spitfire Albion V Tundra, BBCO Core, Nylon Guitar Ilya Efimov, Xtant Audio Uilleann Pipes - in use

Testing Modartt Pianoteq..

Korg DS-8, Roland D-10, M1Rex, Wavestation, Korg SP-280, JV2080, Wavestate, Kronos LS - all RIP
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