change in seq the keyset by an events in songbook entries

[siebenhirter]

Here's what I noticed ... Here's what I did for the midi setting ...

What you did is nonsense - then it comes as no surprise to me that your Pa1000 behaves in this way.

You send via the control channel NRPNs as initial strings to select a songbook-nr 575 (that additionally obviously seems not exist) and then you sent a command to change to KbdSet No 2. Why did you try unnecessary selecting disturbing SongBook Entries via MIDI during a running SMF??

You should do nothing but put at the appropriate trigger position that PrgChange that corresponds to your desired KbdSet.
Maybe you want to change yor KbdSet to KeyboardSet 2 on beat 48 do nothing else then insert a programchange 65 on beat 48, start your SMF and KbdSet will change to 2 on beat 48.

With your midi sequence, the messages and behavior of the Pa keyboard are the right response to your command sequence.
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Your question was, to automatically change your four keyboard sets via SMF - what you did was a trial, to recursive load another sb-entry, but has nothing to do with your original question. Therefore thats another task with other solutions and in the meantime seems you are no longer looking for the solution to switch keyboard sets - so got it right and hope I was able to help you with it.

[jackand]

OK I understood About PC I corrected it works I do not have the message "song not available" but the second problem remains: the sounds change on each track on the SMF.
if I remove the MIDI cable the song Load normaly if I have midi cable (midi loop) sounds change. I can not unplug the midi cable between each song ... It would not make sense in a live situation.
I specify that I am in songbook mode to select the songs

[jackand]

OK I would like to thank you for your help and your patience .. but know I'm not trying to do anything other than the one requested in the topic.
In addition I want to point out that the PA-1000 is a recent machine on the market so it is normal that people are not specialists if they did not have other machines in the series arranger KORG or the kronos (for my part I had a YAMAHA MOTIF XF) ... Also the manual is in English only and I read it and read again and some passages are not very clear
I have been a keyboard player for 40 years and I have had in my life about fifty keyboard.
That being said the program change works but there was still a problem with the tracks that changed sounds with a message "SONG LOAD FAILED" when I load a song since the SONGBOOK I found the solution by putting a filter in midi in 1 = sys.exclusive (global / midi / filters / midi in1 = sys.excl) and now it works very well, here I remember the midi settings for other users

global / midi / noon in channel / all channels off (except the 15 = control)
global / midi / midi out channel / all channel off (except the 15 = ply.1 Tr 15)
global / midi / filters / midi in1 = sys.excl
The midi cable '' in '' in '' out '' (midi loop)
SMF Tr 15 (or others) PC 64/65/66/67 for KBDSET 1,2,3 or 4
I thank you again because without you I would never have found
Thank you very much Jack

[siebenhirter]

.. found the solution by putting a filter in midi in 1 = sys.exclusive ..

I am glad that you have found your solution. I did not suspect that you would send SysExs with your SMF, because channel messages affect one channel independent of one another, whereas I thought it would be known that system messages affect the entire MIDI channels.

Your solution would have been found immediately, if my recommendation to use a midi monitor had been accepted. It's not a big effort to install it and learn how to deal with it, but it saves unnecessary idle in the search for bugs and solutions.

Once again my recommendation for each who looks for Midi-solutions - always use Midi-Monitoring (I prefer Midi-OX since more than 20 years), you save yourself a lot of trouble.

PS: Each SMF created / overwritten with Pa-Keyboards contain a sysEx-Header, so in case you send Midi-messages that are set limited to only one specific channel, also all SysEx of such an SMF are sent, because system messages affect all Midi channels.

[jackand]

do you know a way to cut the midi connection without disconnecting the cable? it could be useful for me ...
thanks again

[siebenhirter]

do you know a way to cut the midi connection without disconnecting the cable? it could be useful for me ...
thanks again

prepare and load a midi-preset where all channels (in and out) are set to "off"