joystick settings

[Edcollante]

Hi everyone.

In case this question has been already asked/answered, please bear with me.

I managed to create a lead patch I like a lot on the polysix, everything by pure chance as I'm no programmer. Well, I'd like to add a wha-wha triggered by the joystick, but I honestly can't find where the joystick-settings are hidden, they're nowhere to be found... so, could anyone help me out?

Thank you in advance.

[19naia]

Thats a good one. Now I am curious. Too bad my kronos is packed up for tomorrow's road trip.

"Dmod" (Dynamic modulation) is what i was able to look up and i also saw Wah FX setups with Dmod already factored in.
Not sure if its in the effects page that joy stick can be set for Dmod functions to control Wah parameters, but There is sweep and LFO involved among other things making up the wah effect.
So the joystick would have to be linked to one of those(sweep or LfO) depending on which wah effect you are using. Not all the wah effects are set up for Dmod and not all Dmod-ready effects are wah wah effects. Lfo and sweep seems to be a common factor in the Dmod effects. Also AMS uses control setups that work LFO into the mix.
There is a CC# list associated with Dmod on page 1106 of the parameter guide.

Still not clear how to set it up for Joystick response but Dmod fx can work via joystick, vector joystick and others(page 1106) My kronos is packed away right now but i am refrencing the parameter guide.
There should be an effect controller option in the fx pages where Dmod applies but my parameter guide is 1200 pages and crashing my computer when i try to speed scroll across hundreds of pages in search of scattered details.
There is a little logo for Dmod with a Wah pedal type image overlaying the letters "Dmod". Seems Dmod was included just for what you are trying to get done.
AMS could be set up with Dmod configurations but thats a guess. Dmod CC# configurations are listed in the parameter guide page 1106 but doesn't really show if they can be reassigned or where to do that.
I cant give you details because i am going off of pages in the Guide book of 1200 pages. So its not easy for me to find every detail especially since it keeps crashing my computer as i try to rapid scroll through the pages.

Pages 1095 and up give details of all the CC# assignments and functions and there are pages explaining Dmod and AMS in the appendice section after page 1095. Dmod and AMS involve CC# assignments for controller functions. Joystick has a set group of CC# functions that can be assigned to other controls but its not as easy as vector joystick to reassign CC# function to Joystick. Also CC# function doesnt really control FX, rather it controls the fx controls in the fx. So the wah has several things making up it's quality and when they are similar to what can be used as a control via AMS such as LFO, then you can work something out with controller assignments. Dmod is the version of AMS that specializes in fx controls and bringing in joystick to the fx controls.

Also, pages 859 and up go over the effects and show the wah effects that have Dmod available. I suspect there will be at least one wah FX preset to a default of joystick working to control wah parameters.

Once you look at the Dmod Wah FX and see the sweep and LFO controls or adjustments, you may be able to find another way via AMS ,to work something out and then assign AMS to Vector Joystick rather than Joystick. I am just guessing about assigning AMS to vector, but it can be assigned to controls such as SW and that makes for a good guess that it should assign to Vector joystick.

Good question and too bad my kronos is packed up. I am looking forward to trying all this out and figuring something out.
Sorry if i didnt give you a solution but looking it up got me in the right direction for figuring something out at least for myself.
Not much showing for flexibility in reassigning control functions to Joystick, but vector joystick does have flexibility. Effects are not really available as CC# functions- going by what i have read so far, but where the effects have properties that fit into AMS and Dmod, you can work effects off of controls where AMS or Dmod can be assigned.

[Edcollante]

Oi. Thanx a lot, mate. Very helpful.

[GregC]

Hi everyone.

In case this question has been already asked/answered, please bear with me.

I managed to create a lead patch I like a lot on the polysix, everything by pure chance as I'm no programmer. Well, I'd like to add a wha-wha triggered by the joystick, but I honestly can't find where the joystick-settings are hidden, they're nowhere to be found... so, could anyone help me out?

Thank you in advance.

there's a guitar program called Whack-a-wah SW!

on my Kronos its INT D044.

You can assign an expression pedal to SW1

[X-Trade]

It might be seen as a matter of point of view.

What you want to do is not set up the joystick to do a wah-wah.

Rather, you want to add a wah-wah effect that is controlled by the joystick. The clue is in the order of the wording. Joystick is just a controller and it's pervasive, in Korg's workstations you can generally apply the joystick to all kinds of parameters - all at once if you like, but you go to the parameter and tell it to be modulated by the joystick, not vice versa.


You'll find some wah-wah effects you can add to the chain in the IFX or MFX sections. But modulating the polysix filter cutoff may also work as wah effect is typically just a moving filter.

[Edcollante]

Rather, you want to add a wah-wah effect that is controlled by the joystick. The clue is in the order of the wording. Joystick is just a controller and it's pervasive, in Korg's workstations you can generally apply the joystick to all kinds of parameters - all at once if you like, but you go to the parameter and tell it to be modulated by the joystick, not vice versa.

I'm still looking into it. You guys came up with some great feedback, hey.

Thank you again.

[19naia]

CC#01 and CC#02 are the ones for Joystick Y axis. One is for Y vertical upward range and two is for Y vertical downward range. X axis is listed but not with a CC# in the chart on page 1106.

Also you will need the CC# for FX controls 1 and 2. They are CC#12 and CC#13. you will have to go through midi effects control to set up for joystick controls over effects.
Dmod effects have a way to make it happen, but you will need these CC#'s.
Page 1106 has the full list.

Usually if you go to a control and you assign a CC# to it, it basically transfers the function of that CC# number such as turning an eg knob into a ribbon effect or modulation and pitch bend. Dmod seems to have a way around that.

[SanderXpander]

19naia, you're going about this in a very complicated manner. As X-Trade said, the Korg philosophy has always been to find the parameter you want to affect, and there put in the controller. If you set up a wah wah in the insert fx you'll be able to set up the Joystick Y axis (+ or -) as controller. No CC# needed.

[onsenonsen]

I think EXTERNAL MODULATION in P5:Mod & Arp should be used.
Set VCF CUTOFF of SOURCE1 (or 2) as -10.00 and assign JS-Y (or JS+Y) to SOURCE.

[19naia]

Sander Expander, it does seem complicated. And after lookng at all the parameter guide info i could, i still didnt find any where that clearly or simply showed where to set up jostick as controller.
I guess the simple answer would be one that actually points to what tabs and edit pages lead to setting up joystick as controller. I still haven't found that answer.
I guess i will keep looking in the insert FX page and drop down boxes when i get kronos unpacked.
I usually get a better understanding in the end, after digging around all over the place even if i get lost for a while in complications.

[SanderXpander]

Like X-Trade said, just find the parameter you want to modulate. Whether it be some IFX parameter, filter cutoff, LFO speed, whatever. Find THAT page and there will be a box that says "AMS source" where you can specifiy whichever controller you want to use for that parameter, amongst them the various Joystick axes.

There is no "joystick page" as such.

[19naia]

So I got it done and it is simpler than it looked when brushing through the parameter guide book.
But i am glad i went through all that because when i got to IFX 1-12 tab page, Comp Wah effect is set up with the option to select Dmod in the "Control" box. I would have never known why Dmod was appearing only in some IFX control options.
After selecting Dmod for the sweep mode, it then allowed "Source" selection which was already default set to JS+Y.
Then I saw why i dont need to know the CC# because they are listed in the selection box right next to their corresponding control. But i am glad that i know the CC#'s any way because that will come in handy elsewhere. There is a reason they have them there.

Dmod isn't showing up in every effect, and doesnt show up in Vox wah effect. But in Vox wah effect, Pedal wah "Mode" selection in "Control" setting box opens up the same "source" options you would get in Dmod for other wah effects.
So now i am wondering whats so specific about Dmod that it needs to be there when "pedal wah" mode opens the same options, such as assigning JS+Y control. At least it gets it done.

Its simple and THANKS for the tips, and it also feels a lot easier for me now after i went through the long drawn out digging around and complicated way of approach. Now at the kronos, lit up, I have a clearer idea of what the options are about.
Got my JS going right now and its running Wah sweeps as i speak.

[X-Trade]

I've never 'got' dmod either, it seems awfully similar to AMS seen elsewhere in the KorgForums workstation interfaces, except dmod only appears in some FX and I think has no amount control.

Glad you've got it working anyway!